What does this have to do with heterosexuality?
After the bomb is dropped....we we all be heterosexual..wt 1953 2/15
Posts by gumby
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112GOING DOWN TO THE WIRE
by You Know inthings are gettn interestinger and interestinger every day.
on the international scene any number of scenarios can serve as triggers to set off wwiii, or the tribulation, whatever you may prefer to call it.
the next cross-border atrocity by rogue militants could easily detonate a conflagration between nuclear-poised india and pakistan.
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GOING DOWN TO THE WIRE
by You Know inthings are gettn interestinger and interestinger every day.
on the international scene any number of scenarios can serve as triggers to set off wwiii, or the tribulation, whatever you may prefer to call it.
the next cross-border atrocity by rogue militants could easily detonate a conflagration between nuclear-poised india and pakistan.
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gumby
Of course, factoring in the metastasizing apostasy and the general malaise within the organization it is evident that Jehovahs judgment is imminent.
Now wait juuuuuuuust a minute there bud.
First....religion has to get turned on by the beast BEFORE any holocost erupts.
Then after religion is down, the beast turns on you dubbers. Then peace and security is proclaimed. Then it's like touching Jehovah's eye. Then the shit hits the fan!
After all this happens.....then you can have your nuclear war YK. Remember.....this is the order given of events as held by the big boys, and so your hiroshima will be on pause for awhile.! (unless you know something they don't)
Edited by - Gumby on 10 June 2002 21:4:53
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BapDismal talk at Distric Assembly
by Jourles inoh joy of joys!
thank god this last weekend is over.
what a complete waste of a good weather weekend.
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gumby
"Disfellowshiping doesn't sever family ties."
Farkmeister....where was this quote?????????
That's a doo-zy!
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JW Family Tries Black-Mailing Me
by Prisca ini have spent the last week or so with my sister and bro-in-law and my 6year old niece, all jws.
they live in a town not too far away from me, and i visit them every couple of months or so.
my sister and i are close, not extremely so, but we appreciate each other as we have no other bros & sisters, our mother died 21yrs ago, and our father treats us as though we are dead too (due to non-jw issues).. last time i went to visit them, my bro-in-law asked my niece to ask me if i'd go to the meeting.
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gumby
Hi Prisca, ......similar thing happened to me a week ago. My daughter and son-in-law , lucky for me, bend the rules and let my grandkids come and spend the day with my wife, (who is still in the org.) , and I. I'm not sure why they allow this or why they talk and laugh with me when they come to get their kids or drop them off. We have no social life other than that. They are very strong in the Org. Last week my granddaughter who is 7 was over visiting and I was working in the back yard and she said "grandpa.... how come you were disfellowshiped"? ...I said 'for smoking honey' Then I said 'I don't think your mommy and daddy want me to talk to you about this'. She then said...'why don't you come back in the truth'. I said 'what do you mean ,'truth' She said...'well, you go to church and they believe Jesus died on a cross' I said ' honey we don't know what he died on but I believe he died for us and that's what matters' .......Well, I thought I said the right thing because that was a comment from the WT. Fast forward...My son-in-law hears about it from my granddaughter who tells him what we had talked about.... AFTER .....I told my wife to let my daughter know what her daughter had said to me, so she wouldn't get mad if she heard it thru my granddaughter......He came over extremely upset and said that I said..."too much" , ( he said a lot more)....and that the kids may not be able to come over any more. He will let me know. I haven't heard. I would tell of the conversation but I hate long posts. I said nothing out of line that they wouldn't want their daughter to hear....at least in my mind. I apologized and said I'm sorry and next time I will say ..."we can't talk about this. He is now afraid to let me be with his kids for FEAR I will indoctrinate them. Not only sad for me but sad for the kids. It must confuse them badly.
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The Soul and Spirit Does exist!!
by JamesG ini saw an earlier post on one persons anguish over contemplating whether the soul and spirit in our bodies truly exists.
the soul and spirit does exist.
just go to a popeyes chicken after a southern baptist church service.
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gumby
But considiering that all the direct thought processes we know are directly dependent on physical components in the brain, how can you sustain such a belief?
If a man was dead for 3 days and FROZEN upon death....then he is thawed out and he is brought back to life by medical science somehow.........would he still have a memory? A personality?
Perhaps this is a bad analogy but I do see Jans point. I also see Franks point.
What about.....spirituality? A mother wakes up at night at 4 in the morning because she feels something happened to her son who lives 1000 miles away. She calls to find out he was killed in an automobile accident. She KNEW something was wrong......how? What in her brain cells would KNOW that.
Heres another. Two twins seperated at birth that grew up apart from one another not knowing the other existed until they are grown.
They finally learn they are twins and seek to find each other. When they do they find these similarities:
They married a girl with the same name, named there kids the same, drive the same type of car, wear the same namebrand shoe. What in there BRAIN made this happen? They were each a product of a DIFFERENT enviorment.
How does my dog KNOW when I'm only THINKING about giving her a bath,,,, and she runs outside?
I realize these are lame excuses to try and prove SPIRITUALITY inside of man.....however....there are weird things like this in life we can't explain.....yet they ARE reality.
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Hypocracy with DFing policy!
by gumby insince the sept. 15th 1983. watchtower about "how to treat disfellowshiped ones", no change in policy has taken place.. in spite of this....many ex-dubs still have family members who still smile, wave, or talk to us.....why?
did they forget the policy?
do they have their own opinion on how tht handle this?
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gumby
Hey puff;
Quote:...."My mom's explanation is that blood is thicker than water and she love's us (my DF'd sister) more than anything.
Now you have me thinking...I am going to have to probe the relatives and try to understand why".Blood is thicker than water? Is disobeying the FDS less important to her? My mom says the exact same thing to me..."your my son"
As for asking them about this.....I would think twice about it. If you remind them of their policy.....they might cut you off as you have made them look like a bad example as a witness, and so as not to STUMBLE you....they may stick to policy.
Don't mess up a good thing.
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Too much bad language, sex & pics
by Simon inplease can everyone think twice before they make posts containing bad language (even if not directed at individuals), graphic sex talk and nude or semi-nude pictures (especially if explicit).
this is not what the forum is here for.
if you want to post stuff like that then there are lots of places on the internet for it and, more importantly, if people want to see and read stuff like that then they are quite capable of going to these places themselves.. i know everyone likes to 'let their hair down' now and again, me included, and i like pictures of sexy women as much as anyone .
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gumby
Good idea simon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The internet, and this site especially, has been a powerful tool in aiding dubs out of the borg.
The things you mentioned would be a turnoff to all who are searching. -
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Hypocracy with DFing policy!
by gumby insince the sept. 15th 1983. watchtower about "how to treat disfellowshiped ones", no change in policy has taken place.. in spite of this....many ex-dubs still have family members who still smile, wave, or talk to us.....why?
did they forget the policy?
do they have their own opinion on how tht handle this?
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gumby
Since the sept. 15th 1983
watchtower about "how to treat disfellowshiped ones", no change in policy has taken place.In spite of this....MANY ex-dubs still have family members who still smile, wave, or talk to us.....why? Did they forget the policy? Do they have their OWN opinion on how tht handle this? Is it the same attitude they have about being on this board?
My question: ..How many here, have witness families/friends, that still talk to you?
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A chat with my JW sister
by larc ina week ago i called my jw sister.
she and i talk on a regular basis with a don't ask don't tell unspoken policy regarding the society.
she has not "witnessed" to me in many years.
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gumby
Larc:..Then she asked me if I had the same hope.
You family sounds like mine. We all talk but not about spiritual things.
From time to time I get a response as you did such as;...."why don't you come back in the truth"?
Every time I have adressed this type of question, it gets back to all the family that Larry is spreading apostate 'stuff' to the family.
When I hear about it, it's my fault....I started it. I don't start it....they do...I only answered their question.
They can say " why don't you come back in the truth, or do you think you'll ever come back or, your the one who left, it was your decision to leave"
However.......WE are not allowed to say; " Do you think you'll ever leave the organisation?We are expected to be silent on these matters but they can ask all they want.
I am glad for you larc, that you family and mine bend the rules on how to treat a disfellowshiped family member living "OUTSIDE the household. All of mine do...all 7 of them. Talk only....(not pal around)
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my brother the circuit overseer
by GeddyLee inhi everyone, third generation dubber here who had enough sense to leave eight years ago, after utterly wasting thirty years of my life.
i ve faced everything most of you all have,(loss of family and life long friends, and hardships trying to learn how to relate to the world around us) but now i am now enjoying all the best that life has to offer.
just wanted to relate my first hand experiance of how loyalty to the crotchtower is put above everything else even blood.
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gumby
Hi Geddylee. Nice to have newcomers. You have probably noticed many lately here if you have been following the threads.
Many leave the borg simply over being hurt so bad and it's later they find out what they thought was truth was all bogus.
That kind of happened to me. I too am 3rd gen. raised as a witness been out for 6 years or so.
Funny how strong the hold the borg has on them....your dad picking your snobnose brother over you because..."at least he's a faithfull witness"...according to your dad.
Anyway....nice to meet you. Take care