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  If the GB and their suck ups were threatened with........

  by punkofnice in

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  ......the 'chair' or execution for crimes against humanity or whatever unless they change doctrine eg 'no blood' and practices like 'shunning' and 'paedo protecting', would there suddenly be loadsa loadsa 'new light'(tm), changing these things as the gb protect their posteriors?.

  ..or would the members of the gb gladly march to their death without changing a thing relishing the thought that they're being martyred for 'jehovah'(tm)?.

  ...........something i've wondered about..

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  wobble

  How quickly did "Noo Lite" appear on vaccinations when Knorr found out he had to have them to travel ?
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  STEP RIGHT UP Hurry Hurry Hurry We've got the cure for what ails you!

  by Terry in

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  2. bible

  step right up close ladies and gents.. listen up!!.

  are ya fat?

  ugly?

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  wobble

  Dear Janet B,

  It was that very "emptiness inside" that you spoke of that spurred me on to seek out the real truth. Had I not read things like Terrys post above, I should still be thinking that perhaps the WT/JW religion is perfect but for one or two flaws that were obvious to me at the time.

  It takes a challenge to your beliefs and world-view to make you investigate and search.

  Keep up the good work Terry !
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  How long has it been since you communicated with your love ones.

  by jam in

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  since you left the cult how long has it been (communicated) only.

  family members.

  your mom, dad ,brother, sister, son.

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  wobble

  The above stories are terrible to consider, normal family love and communication snatched away by a cult that misinterprets the scriptures that deal with such matters.

  I feel so very upset for all in that situation, it is a scandal that the public should be aware of.

  Jesus Christ, as he is shown to be in the Gospels, would condemn such actions as worse than blasphemy.
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  how upset would the jws be if?

  by cptkirk in

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  2. beliefs

  they found out nobody was going to stay dead, and everyone would receive some sort of eternal life?.

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  wobble

  When I was an active JW, I believed that a God of love would not destroy anyone permanently who did not deserve such destruction.

  I had no problem with the idea that some would come in at the last second and be saved, or that the most unusual people, from our perspective, Adolph Hitler say, would be brought back to life in the New System because their mental illness was adjudged by God to have accounted for their actions.

  Far from being "upset" , I would have been gratified that a God of Justice had acted in a righteous maner. I believe there are many active JW's today who feel the same.

  What is really upsetting to them, as it was to me, is to find out the whole thing, New System, God of Justice etc, is a sham and a pipe-dream.
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  What a dumb thing to have done!

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at times i want to kick myself for mindlessly letting the "god of religion" teach me about the "god of abraham" for more than 40 years.

  what was i thinking?.

  then again i was a third generation born-in who simply and naively believed the "reality" i was presented with, whilst unknowingly being held captive by spiritually blind, confused, inebriated and insane watchtower religionists in a mental prison with invisible bars..

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  wobble

  Who was the God of Abraham ?
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  It's almost that time of year again where SPROUTS appear.......

  by watersprout in

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  on their stinky trees in the supermarkets, green grocers and then on your dinner plate!

  oh the horrors!!!!!!

  *pulls out hair in angst*.

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  wobble

  Hated them as a kid, love 'em now. Mainly, as Cantleave hinted at, for the entertainment value.

  If you eat enough of them, you can fart like that Hippo on the other thread !
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  Jesus Christ was INVENTED?

  by sizemik in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a f/b friend just posted this link .

  which makes some interesting claims .

  so i thought i'd share.. some here at jwn have an extensive knowledge of early christianity .

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  wobble

  "tec" asked about establishing the age of the manuscripts, and fragments, that we do have. Carbon dating is one method, paleography is another.

  The alphabets, scribal notes, language usage etc all change very quickly, as in the change from Shakesperean English to today's. So dating is a fairly exact science, always with the caveat that a few years either way must be allowed.

  So, we know for sure, that all we have are copies of copies of more copies that were probably translations in many cases.

  Even if we had the original autographs, we would still have to ask when was the writer at work, and more importantly, why was he at work ? What was his agenda ?

  So it is very silly to argue about "every jot and tittle", it is very silly to say "Jesus said..." or similar, and it is downright criminal to build a doctrine such as the WT's on refusing the life saving use of blood, on such flimsy, unverifiable sources.
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  Hippo (For those who could use a good laugh.)

  by leavingwt in

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  someone sent me this video, with the description: "taco bell has this effect on me.".

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ywmbtkxgea.

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  wobble

  I think Hippo went in to the last public toilet I tried, just before me, at least, whoever did was fitted with a multi-directional splatter bottom !
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  evolution question

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  it has taken me almost 2 years to get to the bottom of the watchtower society rabbit hole.

  being fully convinced that i was duped....i am still a little ashamed of myself for being so narrow minded.

  i have vowed never to close off my mind like that again.

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  wobble

  What a great thread ! apologists for anti-science views are like WT apologists, won't answer a straight question or two !

  I like Cofty's comment that "we" interbred with Neanderthals, we ?, I do remember a particularly hairy girlfriend from my youth, but I am still not admitting to inter-breeding !

  Thanks for the book and site sugestions, I have read some, but not all, and Mrs Wobble could do with reading some of them too, thanks all.
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  Women who have affairs...are they DUMB to think he will leave his wife?

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  "yes he does love me....it's just a bad time now with the kids and all...and money...he doesn't love her anymore, it just the kids....he said we can keep meeting at $40 hotels for "awhile" longer....till he sorts things out...and we can be together.".

  this could be 1955 or 2011 and dumb girls still fall for this crap????

  for real????

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  wobble

  Every situation is not unique, and every situation is not the same, to claim either is to generalise, and "He who generalise, generally lies !"

  I agree though that your average mistress must be a bit of a Cogitive Dissonance sufferer, the form is not good for such relationships. Sometimes it sort of works, but the couple never seem to be as relaxed and confident in eachother as a couple who have no guilt.