Not really.
I was the definition of straight and righteous while a catholic as a youth.
When I started to associate with the JW's I learned how much fun I had been missing.
We would drink beer and whiskey heavily, smoke pot, date worldly girls, go to R rated movies (Saturday night fever was my 1st one)
sneak into a local disco, and generally act like normal kids of the "world."
Then the next day it would be go to the meeting, give a comment, go out in service, converse in an up building way with ones at the KH .
And guess what ?
The majority of kids I hung out with were the children of elders, and the PO !!!
In fact we had a secret code name for ourselves,,,, "The unholy JW's"
it always bothered me a little at that time that this group of people who considered themselves to be
Gods chosen people living for God in the last days were so morally corrupt on the inside. Yet at the meetings and in service they really
were able to fool people with their pretend action.
Thanks Randy and Kevin for your help, it took 30 years for me to realize what a fool I was.
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Fred and Ginger
by lancelink ini just love watching this: .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojw7-k8gv1w .
(sorry, i can't embed the file) .
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I just love watching this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJw7-k8gV1w
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Christian Love in action
by lancelink inthis past weekend i was speaking to a friend who attends the hall that i once did in northern illinois.
we were catching up on the latest news regarding the mass disfellowshipping (53) of teenagers that happened in the area, and she shared .
they were talking about the dfing and he said that they needed to be cast out, it was akin to "scourging" and hopefully they would wake up and realize what they had done.
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the mass disfellowshipping (53) of teenagers that happened in the area
I forgot to mention that this happened in one circuit, not one hall.
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Your STRANGEST most SHOCKING marriage, death..or event at the KH. !
by caliber ini've lived through some ... a death where my brother caught an elderly lady as she dropped dead while singing !.
a girl in early twenties marries a man (elder) 27 years older ..still married 30 years later !.
an elder is stabbed with a knife.. but it hits his belt buckle.. police called.
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I was giving a #4 talk many years ago and was about 1/2 of the way thru it.
Looked up and police and paramedics were running across the back of the hall. I just focused on my talk, just about finished it
and they were carrying out a teenage sister on a stretcher.
in the comments after my talk the overseer commented how poised, and in self-control I was with all the activity going on.
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Christian Love in action
by lancelink inthis past weekend i was speaking to a friend who attends the hall that i once did in northern illinois.
we were catching up on the latest news regarding the mass disfellowshipping (53) of teenagers that happened in the area, and she shared .
they were talking about the dfing and he said that they needed to be cast out, it was akin to "scourging" and hopefully they would wake up and realize what they had done.
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This past weekend I was speaking to a friend who attends the hall that I once did in northern Illinois.
We were catching up on the latest news regarding the mass disfellowshipping (53) of teenagers that happened in the area, and she shared
with me a very disturbing comment made by an elder from her hall.
They were talking about the DFing and he said that they needed to be cast out, it was akin to "scourging" and hopefully they would wake up and realize what they had done.
The dictionary defines scourging as :(from Italian scoriada, from Latin excoriare = "to flay" and corium = "skin") is a whip or lash, especially a multi-thong type used to inflict severe corporal punishment or self-mortification on the back.
Yes Jesus was scourged,,, but he was an adult in his 30's.
Going along with this elders mentality, perhaps he should have been whipped when he got lost at the temple as a boy.
Could you imagine how the story would be if he was whipped instead of just talked to?
My point here is what gives this guy who is
1) an elder
2)the congregation PO
3) a father himself
the right to make a comment like this? Sounds kinda creepy to me. he seems more focused on being right and enforcing the "law" of the WT
society than actually helping the kids. What about the scripture that talks about the Shepard who leaves the flock to go and search for the lost sheep?
OK, maybe the kids were totally unappreciative, but they are teenagers. Maybe helping them, and looking for avenues to assist them would be more productive in the future. But gloating in a weird way that they need to be whipped,does not seem to be a very loving expression from this guy! -
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Well I finally decided to send my letter to the BOE.
It was a decent letter, I just stated that I no longer cared to be a JW,and that I enjoyed my time
in the org, but it was time to move on.
OK, now the elders want to talk to me, they will not make an announcement until I call them and explain myself.?
My letter was pretty explanatory in itself, it stated that I no longer thought that their religion was the truth.
I'm done with their "mind manipulation" games and I feel that i should just wash my hands of the whole thing.
They know where i stand, and I am done with them.
I recently had a death in my immediate family, and dealing with this BS is something I really don't want to do.
Any comments ?
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** Protecting yourself & loved ones after Obama's election **
by FlyingHighNow ini've read, right here on this very site, that if obama gets elected, this is country is going to hell and that we will all become dominated by a socialist, muslim regime.
this is the only way to protect yourselves from ideas like healthcare for all us citizens.
according to the website where i found these pictures, aluminum foil works the best and it will protect babies, cats, dogs and rabbits as well.
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I can't post the picture of the guy with the 7 foot tall aluminum foil hat, but when I saw that all I could think of was
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questions about a letter.
by lancelink inmy wife has an associate who senses something is wrong with her "spirituality" and last week they had a somewhat deep discussion.
the associate is very much into being a jw, and so is her whole family, she just cannot wrap her mind around the fact that someone .
could question the wt society and their beliefs.
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My wife has an associate who senses something is wrong with her "spirituality" and last week they had a somewhat deep discussion.
The associate is very much into being a JW, and so is her whole family, she just cannot wrap her mind around the fact that someone
could question the WT society and their beliefs.
Anyway, the associate sent her a somewhat long letter trying to be encouraging, and after I read it I copied these questions that she asked,
any replies would be appreciated. ( I'm somewhat puzzled by the points she might be trying to make.)
1. The old red Live Forever book made a statement about the purpose of the congregation. It is to preach the good news. When you look at it in that light, that’s why I say we are succeeding in amazing ways as a worldwide organization. More on that later… -
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Holy Disfellowshipping batman
by lancelink inwow, .
i heard yesterday that 50 (yes 50) young people have been disfellowshipped within the past month in my .
old circuit.
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I find this very hard to believe. Where did you hear it from?
1),My kids keep in contact with a teenager who attends one of the affected halls
2), One of the elders called me up yesterday asking how I was doing, he mentioned that 53 (not 50) teenagers
were DF'ed.
3), My wife heard in conversation this morning that 4 kids from our old hall were now gone, the local needs part was on drinking. -
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Holy Disfellowshipping batman
by lancelink inwow, .
i heard yesterday that 50 (yes 50) young people have been disfellowshipped within the past month in my .
old circuit.
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WOW,
I heard yesterday that 50 (yes 50) young people have been disfellowshipped within the past month in my
old circuit. Northern Illinois, I don't remember the number perhaps 11-A or B ??
Round lake, Palatine, Crystal lake,Cary,Barrington area.
50 kids within 30 days,, I verified this with two different people from 2 different congregations.
I just cannot wrap my mind around this thought, what is going on in the world of JW's that would cause
so many to be DF'ed so soon?