than you all for the comments.
My Mom has been getting better, and may come home within several weeks, but now
my dad is developing blood pressure problems because of all the stress.
Thanks again !
lancelink
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Brotherly love in action ?
by lancelink inkind of a strange experience here, maybe someone can make me see what's going on.
my parents live in another state, to visit them would require at least a 22 hour drive, no trains, .
planes are fine but since the airport is in the middle of nowhere tickets are getting quite costly ($$$$$$.
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Big News or rumor!
by Burger Time ina friend just informed me that the c/o in his hall will be instructing the elders that anyone with a child in college will be stripped of privileges in the hall.
i am not sure if this is true this is just what i was told.
it could be that it is only a campaign directed at him as he has some ties to ex-jw's and some how got found out.
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very easy way to deal with this:
just don't reach out ! end of story.
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Well, I'm nauseated now. Gag inducing dramatizations at my DC
by Lady Zombie induring the hour long symposium: empowered by holy spirit.
under the part "to fight temptation," a little dramatization of a young married man doing some work on his laptop.
he is tapping away when he suddenly slams his laptop shut.
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The father mentions how a brother might have a job for him and that they should all trust in Jehovah and enjoy the whole three day assembly!
been there done that, (shudder)
And honestly, it was nice that some of the brothers let me work for them but there are MANY side points that were more discouraging than
missing a part of the assembly, they should be a little more realistic when presenting these types of scenarios.
1) work is mostly very sporadic, you only work when he has enough for him and you.
2) benefits are gone ( unless you use COBRA)and with children, that is a major area of stress and discouragement.
3) the personal / emotional side of "loosing" your job, wondering just what the hell I was thinking, and what are my kids going to do if I get sick, or hurt and cannot work at all.
4) trying twice as hard to balance the checkbook each week-month,
5) praying that at tax time,that I will be able to pay uncle Sam.
Is all this headache worth the price of missing a part of the assembly ?
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Other KC DC highlights
by stillajwexelder inmanuscript talk - denim is bad - then a whole item on low cut tops, tight clothing, long slits etc - and bra straps showing (you can not make this shit up) is also bad.
last but one item - desperate need for brothers to reach out - cant form congregations if brothers dont reach out.
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Denim was bad in the Bethel Tour Brochure and by extension not good in other theocratic activities
What ??
I have heard this over the years, but never got a decent reply,
is denim made by satanists, is it made from plants that grow in demon world, or does satan himself
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Has there ever been a LTR about No-College?
by yknot inso elders / ex elders out there.....can ya give a girl some help?.
so far we have heard that these anti-college 'rules' have been given verbally.. i doubt the wts would be stupid enough to put into writing now, but have they in the past?.
this year dc..online porn...next year....online classes....lol.
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CO talked to me to encourage me
by stillajwexelder inwell the co asked me to reach out again to be an elder because the organization needs men like me - i am serious - that is what he said.
if only he knew.
so all i need to do is get my hours to average 12 or better per month.. no chance.
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the APOSTAPHONE
Ultracool!
where can i get one of these ?
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MTS School???
by LearningMore incould someone explain what mts is?
i am assuming it is ministerial training school, but i don't really know the significance of it.
i keep hearing reference to it, but i guess i don't understand who attended, and what sort of prestige it provided.
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I recently met this young, pompous a** who wants to go to this training school.
He is dating this wonderful, young girl and everyone in her family hates this guy,
they ALL state that he seems to have a rather large corn cob shoved up his rear-end.
Anyway, he wants to marry her, and his local BOE approved his going to this school,
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Kansas City info
by mann377 ini have been trying to find (or what happened to them) a family that i knew in the late '70"s by the name of bergen.
they live in the kansas part of the city and had one daughter.
does anyone know them or what happened to them?
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I knew a BERGMAN / ex-wife named Sheila ?
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middle age revelation
by lancelink injust thinking here, reading some comments, and realizing how attitude changes with age.
when i was a teenager, .
being able to have some menial job (such as walking around with a please take your seat sign) at the convention was an awesome privilege.
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Just thinking here, reading some comments, and realizing how attitude changes with age.
When I was a teenager,
being able to have some menial job (such as walking around with a “please take your seat” sign) at the convention was an awesome privilege.
Being able to cut the grass at the hall, wash the windows, etc, etc, was so great!
Twenty rolled around,,,
And I got married, had kids, worked a FT job, bought a house, made sure raising my kids the "right way" was a major priority,
made all the meetings, had responsibilities such as caring for the magazines, parts on the service meeting, handled the microphones, held a book study at our home and went out in fs every weekend.
Thirty comes up,,,,
Still have some major responsibilities at the hall,
(Have not been considered to become a MS at all.)
Kids are getting older and starting togive us the usual hassles about going to the meetings all the time.
So I get them involved with the responsibilities I have.
They help set up the microphones at the TS before the meeting, count the magazines when they arrive in the mail for me, and help get the house in shape for the study and service on Saturday.
Whew! During this time I make a real effort to become a MS, always, ALWAYS I’m told that I’m not doing enough! And yet, brothers who make half the effort (honestly, believe me here when I say the term half-effort) are getting appointed left and right.
I begin to realize and see the good old boys club is a real live thing at the hall.
40 arrives,
At least 90% of my so called “ outstanding / upright theocratic associates” have been either DF’ed. divorced, or just disappeared within the last several years .
Suddenly I begin to take stock of where I am and begin to wonder just what the hell I have been doing with my life in this unstable religion.
S-l-o-w-l-y, s-l-o-w-l-y, I began to realize that the watchtower society is not the absolutely wonderful organization that I grew up believing it was.
At this time I begin my fade, and guess what?
The elders all of a sudden are over me like flies on a fresh pile asking why I’m not doing “all that I should be doing”
Why not come back to the meetings, reach out once again, and make theocratic goals the forefront of your life?
(I realize that biting my tongue at times like this can be either a blessing, or a curse.)
Sorry, I don’t feel like beating my head against a brick wall any more because you guys all of a sudden realized that I’m not going to follow your every whim and desire any more
So what is it?
At middle age do most people really begin to question what their life really is?
I could never go back to being a witness, too much hypocrisy, and unrealistic expectations in this religion. I’m examining, and studying religions of the world for my Own enjoyment and knowledge, it is really refreshing to study this subject without worrying about what someone might think, or say about it.
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Just received a call
by sspo ini was checking jwd and just received a call from an older sister to check on me and see how i was doing.. right off the bat she started telling me how hard times are and everybody is depressed and having a tough time, .
on and on and on and how the new system is the only releif and hope we have..........well i could feel my blood boiling and put a stop to it .
and just reminded her i just don't believe anymore, i have no more faith but i'm doing just fine and i'm very happy and things are going well for me.. well, she didn't know what to say after that and started once again how jehovah is blessing the organization since there are more than 900 kh.
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I wonder what the shepherds in the congregation are busy doing?
several times the local BOE have made an appt. with me to stop over after Sat. morn.
FS and they never arrived ,
Not that I'm really interested in talking to them,,,,, just being polite I guess?