thank you for your service !!
several years ago when I was beginning my fade I took my 13 year old son to a reunion of soldiers that
fought at D-day. I felt the usual JW guilt feelings beforehand, but after meeting the men, talking to them about
their experiences, I felt nothing but shame for the way I felt earlier, these guys were all in their 70's and
they all spent real personable time with my son explaining to him what it was like, and how they dealt with that day.
several times I got choked up listening to them, it was a real soul-opening experience for me, and a lesson in
reality for my son
All I can say is good for you !!!!
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i stood up
by chickpea inlast night my youngest kid was playing.
at the local bandshell with a "city band".... the theme, of course, 4th of july...... all the kids, and a g/f besides, were there.
and their papa and me..... on the lakeshore with an amazing sunset..... they played a medley of the armed services anthems.
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Waste of Paper Distribution Campaigns
by WTWizard inthis year, we had the reject jesus party invitations.
the witlesses wasted almost a whole month getting those things out, and dismally failed.
almost no one went because they got a waste of paper.
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I deal with paper and prices for a living, and the prices are only starting to get crazy, wait and see what happens !
they are now starting to make paper with a certain % of clay instead of using all pulp :
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little WT extras
by agent zero inyou know whats always bothered me intensely?
.. when witnesses (esp.
pioneers) have all the little wt extras, such as the wt year agenda, the wt removable book covers, bible with their name printed on the leather cover, the rv book with the little tower logo on it, "pens from patterson" etc.
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here is the site that sells all the JW stuff,
http://www.stoopsmfg.com/
some pretty funny stuff here
remember the people at the wt study who would high lite every paragraph with 2 or 3 different colors, and almost every word
would be highlighted ?
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The SHOW must go on!!!
by leaving-jws ini remember when i was a kid in "the truth.
there was an elderly sister that had a heart attack during the meeting.
she made loud gasping sounds as she was holding on for dear life.
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I remember once during a service meeting a teenage girl had a seizure.
there was a commotion in the back, the ambulance came,they took her out, and the meeting never missed a beat.
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The practice of "Shepherding Calls" (attention ex-elders)
by Lady Zombie inthe practice of "shepherding calls" has always been somewhat of a mystery to me.. growing up, a shepherding call was for jws who were doing something that a few/some/most (didn't matter which) found stumbling or suspicious.
for instance, i remember my folks gossiping to each other about a jw couple who had been sloughing off the meetings in order to go dancing.
one of the congregation members (who were absent themselves on a particular night) saw them going into a dance club on a meeting night and promptly ran to an elder.
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years ago (1977-1985) my congregation elders would stop by about once a year to just
check on everyone in the congregation, not a guilt session, just a really neat visit.
The last time (2005 ?
new, young elders so full of their "importance and appearance" that I literally got a headache listening to them.
Visits ? try once every 5 years.
There is one married elder that was SO interested / worried about all the young girls age 13-20 that is all he
pays attention to.
If you were thinking about fading. he will pass you off to someone else.
yet if you just happen to be a teenage girl, you have his complete attention 24-7.
And if you are a male in this age group, he looked at them like they were all predators, staring at the young girls and
just thinking of ways to make trouble for the elders.
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Letter to Elders As An MS Going to College
by daniel-p in[this is the letter i wrote in december, 2005 to my po just before i confronted all my doubts.
the infamous article bashing higher education had just come out and i was having a hard time making sense of everything.
i was still a ministerial servant, and it just pushed me over the edge.
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That is a very-well written letter, and you expressed yourself in a very respectful, yet pointed way.
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I played it for about 20 seconds,
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WHAT A STORY! Man saves drowning bear
by The Nothing Man inhttp://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23943950-5001021,00.html
wildlife officer adam warwick stripped off and jumped into the sea to save the bear who bolted into the water after being hit by a tranquiliser dart.
the 26-stone black bear had bolted into the water in fright after being shot with a tranquilliser dart when it was found roaming a florida beachfront neighbourhood.
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very nice, thank you for sharing !
one question tho, the article states that the bear weighed (26??) stones.
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Ugh! Horrible JW forward, only for the strong stomached
by metaspy ini just got this in my email from an elder's wife (she knows i am not going to meetings):.
pearls.
the cheerful girl with bouncy golden curls was almost five.
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I gave up a scholarship to college in 1978 to focus more on jehovah and his organization.
Now it is 2008 I have a decent job, but it is NOWHERE close to what I really wanted to do with my life.
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I have realized lately that I have come to terms in a way regarding the beliefs of the JW's.
For over thirty years, I did my best to be a productive, supporting member of the congregation.
Within the last three years there have been a number of deaths in my family.
And without slamming religion, I believe that I have finally "outgrown" the JW system.
People if they need it, all the more power to them.
Like a pair of tight shoes, this religion is something that I can no longer remain totally immersed in anymore.
looking into other beliefs, attending other churches has become something that is actually relaxing to me.
How can the JW's actually believe that god contains himself totally within the walls of the wtbts?
Without focusing on the bizzare beliefs/ history, have many of you anyone finally come to terms with just naturally outgrowing the JW's ?