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  LIFE AFTER JW: Have you gotten psychotherapy yet? Why do we need it?

  by cyberjesus in

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  2. friends

  we all regardless of our spiritual beliefs have in common a past damaged by brain washing and mind control.

  there is no doubt that our mental health has been affected to different degrees.

  but we usually go and continue our life trying to patch the injuries on our own.. one of the reasons we find it so difficult to deal with the world is precisely that.

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  I think it may depend on whether you were born in or not. Thankfully, I was able to 'recall' who I was and having friends in the 'world' helped too.
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  Did You Know A Lot Of "Very Intelligent" JWs?

  by minimus in

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  in my lifetime of knowing jehovah's witnesses, i recognized very few as being extremely intelligent.

  most seemed to just go along with the program.. i noticed we have a number of "very intelligent" exjws here..

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  Don't forget there is such a thing as emotional intelligence and that gets my vote more that IQ, so it is not all about academia. However, when someone gives thier thinking ability over to a man-made organisation, surely they cannot be called intelligent? My sis-in-law, cannot blow her nose without asking if the GB agree with it, at the same time she has little knowledge of ANYTHING! My ex, on the other hand, is very intelligent, but subsconsciously cannot separate himself from the org, so they remain paramount. In his case, intelligence has nothing to do with it - I can bear witness to that, it's something more subtle, but perhaps because he is born in. IMHO most JW are not intellectually intelligent, they are (or at least start of) good people, trying to solve problems of everyday life.
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  what is your job ?i was wondering how varied our different jobs are !

  by looloo in

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  2. experiences

  i am a support worker for adults with profound disabilities and some with autism and i love caring for people ..

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  I'm a Project Co-ordinator in the Voluntary Sector setting support groups for various long term health conditions such as Mental Health, Diabetes, Parkinsons and supporting volunteers to work in our centre.
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  I Wish People Would Stop Calling It The Truth

  by Quillsky in

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  why do you call it "the truth"?

  even after you leave??.

  it's wrong on so many levels.

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  I always call it 'The False'.
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  Just read Crisis of Conscience - Malawi/Mexico double standard

  by jambon1 in

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  all i can say is - wow.

  what a bunch of absolutely hypocritical, double tongued shithouses the governing body really are.. reading the letters to & from the different branches/governing body on 'alternative service' made me so angry.. an organisation that is utterly rotten from the top down.

  these men have blood on their hands.. filth!.

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  My husband (ex) read Crisis in a day! I was so excited, because I thought this would unlock some of his beliefs. Alas, all he said was that it was a very sad story "if true"!! Are there many others who have read it and remain true to the false? After that, I felt there was nothing else I could produce as evidence of the falsehood of it all, and it began our demise.
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  Wanted to share a recent interaction with my folks. I sorta laid it on the table. Yet not entirely.

  by miseryloveselders in

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  the thread on commentary on the book of james started this experience, thread link here....... i didnt want to hijack that thread.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/188186/1/commentary-on-the-letter-of-james.

  mythbuster posted this paragraph from the book, which i shared with my dad.

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  What a nice post Wobble - very calming and encouraging, couldn't have put it better myself!
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  DISHONEST debates and discussions are everywhere!

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  people don't listen when you talk to them.

  ever notice that?.

  the silence while you are speaking isn't listening.

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  Yes it's true that often people don't listen and can't wait to jump in. I have had a few discussions with JWs where everything I said was completely ignored and they read from scripture that bore absolutley no relevance to what I was saying. Trouble, is you find yourself doing the same thing - just looking for brownie points. Very unsatisfying. I suppost that people debate at different levels. Some debate very academically over meticulous bible points, some over dates, some history, geography, but some debate using feelings, common sense, justice, fairness and logic - all have their place.
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  How SAFE are children in the Kingdom Hall?

  by wobble in

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  2. experiences

  this topic is prompted by the recent one on abuse being an isolated incident.. the thread title is not that good, i mean to ask, how safe in the entire org.. the charities commission publishes these instructions for implementation here in the u.k :.

  "procedures and systems provide clear step-by-step guidance on what to do in different circumstances and they clarify roles and responsibilities.

  systems for recording information and dealing with complaints are also needed to ensure implementation and compliance.

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  It is part of my job on a day to day basis to take up CRB (Criminal Record Bureau) checks on volunteers and staff. Each organisation should have CLEAR guidelines regarding child protection and working with vulnerable adults. The law in the UK is changing and it will be the organisation's responsibility to ensure that volunteers and staff are not barred from working with these groups. The organisation will be held responsible if something happens and they have not taken up the proper checks. It's all about money and compensation so that might make the JWs sit up and listen!!!!! not the cryings out of small children. It is a constant frustration to me that I cannot take on good volunteers to work in e.g. our Kids Club until they are cleared, but it is GOOD PRACTICE. I am very familiar with the Charities Commission and have witnessed their investigations into an organisation that I know of (and always felt 'dodgy' about). Their findings said that all the staff and volunteers should be CRB cleared. However, I knew that one of the people involved was evading this - he had a criminal record due to throwing his wife down the stairs and breaking her leg - charming! In the end, the Charities Commission do not want to do anything unless you show them the evidence, they do not want to investigate things by themselves - I suppose their resources are limited. So my advice, would be to get the evidence first and then approach them.
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  sarahs law

  by looloo in

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  does anyone know if the new laws coming in great britain will mean that elders will have to let congregation members know when a sex offender is in the congregation ?.

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  As I understand it the new law, if accepted following the pilot in different areas of the UK, means that any individual can apprach the authorities and request information regarding a peson they are suspicious of, e.g. new partner, neighbour etc. as to whether they have a conviction re child abuse. It is then left to the authorities to decide whether it is relevant to tell the family or not. This is to try and avoid the situation that happened a couple of years ago when a tabloid newspaper 'named and shamed' paedophiles. It caused a whole lot of damage and violence (justified, some might say). But there were innocent people caught up in it, and some totally ignorant people looked through the phone book and found 'paediatrcian' and mistook it for paedophile and beat the person up. However, the new barring and vetting laws coming in this July means that anyone who has contact with 'vulnerable' groups will have to register. I don't think the JW congregation will be regarded as vulnerable.................even though we know different!
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  my mum taught us very valuable lessons about Jehovah in her special way. Any other parents out there as psycho?

  by God Chick in

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  ok before i start i know my mum was um "special" and had some, well...... bizzare training ideas.. .

  i was one of 7 kids, dad didnt help much coz he was sick, so my mum was left to run the 'ship' and she did it with an iron fist.. .

  we were never late for a meeting we sat, parents and 2 kids in one row the other 5 in row in front.

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  Terrible story Cantleave, and a credit to you that you have managed to move on and are able to give your kids a totally different life, well done. I have witnessed many uncomfortable moments in the ladies toilets at the Kingdom Hall where very young kids were subjected to beatings for the terrible 'sin' of not sitting quietly (usually they were very tired, grouchy and should have been in their bed). What will happen if/when smacking becomes illegal in the UK as is proposed - who will police the JWs?