phillipus - sounds like the jw was a little confused himself when discussing it with me , he stated that it is all relevant to 1975 being six thousand years and he did mention abrahams test being significant , I'm guessing Isaac can now be considered to have been 33.5 years old during that episode? , he also went on that jewish men were not considered adults until they reach 30yrs. of age according to mosaic law of which I don't recall where it is at .Anyway all info is welcome . I would be surprised if the WTBTS used material from the "apostate" religionists .
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memorial 2009
by heathen inanybody hear anything special about it ?
was talking to a witness last night and he mentioned there was some significance to next years memorial in regard to the 1975 date or there about that ended mans six thousand years from creation and now it has something also to do with jesus 33.5 years on earth .
just curious for more info that may be out there as this person suggested that the remaining remnant were very excited about it..........
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memorial 2009
by heathen inanybody hear anything special about it ?
was talking to a witness last night and he mentioned there was some significance to next years memorial in regard to the 1975 date or there about that ended mans six thousand years from creation and now it has something also to do with jesus 33.5 years on earth .
just curious for more info that may be out there as this person suggested that the remaining remnant were very excited about it..........
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He was going on about allot of stuff such as drawing parallels to adam being 33.5 when he sinned and jesus being 33.5 when he died for sins. (there's no way of knowing how old adam was)That's allot of speculation going on and I thought the WTBTS warned them against speculation and they will get their info strictly from the org. I personally don't have a problem with people giving opinions but they do need to make clear it's only an opinion not something carved in ink and paper in brooklyn .HE HE get it like carved in stone? Thanks for the info blondie , can always count on you to contribute in huge ways.
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memorial 2009
by heathen inanybody hear anything special about it ?
was talking to a witness last night and he mentioned there was some significance to next years memorial in regard to the 1975 date or there about that ended mans six thousand years from creation and now it has something also to do with jesus 33.5 years on earth .
just curious for more info that may be out there as this person suggested that the remaining remnant were very excited about it..........
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Anybody hear anything special about it ? Was talking to a witness last night and he mentioned there was some significance to next years memorial in regard to the 1975 date or there about that ended mans six thousand years from creation and now it has something also to do with jesus 33.5 years on earth . Just curious for more info that may be out there as this person suggested that the remaining remnant were very excited about it..........
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2008 DC: Fear Tactics
by outofthebox inso, as you already know, i was in the 2008 dc.
three very boring days.
but, i paid attention to every speech, so, you guys don't have to go.
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I'm just shocked they are saying to fear satan . He is their enemy and they are at war with him , no point in fearing it , true worshipers are more powerful than satan since God would be backing and supporting them.
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How would the Society give up 1914?
by donny induring the 1930's when the society was quietly moving jesus' presence from 1874 to 1914, it only seemed to ruffle a few feathers and most accepted this "brighter light.
" how could the society abandon 1914 and still keep most of its followers?
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They've already stated it was an invisible generation anyway .. well ,(more or less) suddenly they can't define a generation as mentioned in mathew .Personally I don't feel they need to change the date just the understanding of what it says in mathew .Their main problem was promising the generation eternal life , the scripture doesn't promise eternal life but rather apparently the restoration of christianity , fits right in with the two waves of plagues . One the locust with scorpion tails and the other the Calvary of snake tails .They've already said that the second wave is in action today.IMO
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Death and JW's
by Wordly Andre inin regards to other posts about people dropping dead during meeting and assemblies, it has been my belief that jw's have a pretty weird way of dealing with death.
i'm not sure if its just my family or what but none of my brothers or sisters ever go to visit my dad's grave.
i know this for sure, because no one in my family burried him, i took his ashes and placed him in a cemetery, none of my jw brothers or sister ever asked where is dad located, and by that time my mom was already married to another jw.
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All I can say is recently my father died and some nice old lady that reads the obituaries sends my mom a letter and yes there is a WTBTS track inside ,"What hope for dead loved ones"? I actually thought it was a nice idea at first but now considering it as just a way for them to hit you at one of the weakest moments in your life ,being a sympathetic ear is one of the best ways to gain someones confidence , they also like to use the scripture of, God is close to the broken heart-ed ,just like the other churches .I do disagree with some of what the track says as well. They claim the bible is not saying that death is a threshold to or doorway to a better life , then how come the apostle Paul said in his writings that he was torn between his ministry and facing death to be with christ? He longed to be with christ ,apparently being in this world and actually experiencing his presence was not enough. Those type of things are in the bible .This world is just a place for people to prove and test their metal for the next and death is clearly one way to move to the next .
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YOUTUBE VIDEO: Phonecall to the Watchtower regarding the Williams sisters
by kool aid man06 inrick fearon calls the watchtower concerning the tennis superstars venus and serena williams in this two part youtube video.. http://www.youtube.com/araretreat.
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You would think they would have a press statement available on the williams girls and all celebrities outed as to their current status . All they have to do is contact the elders in their congregations to find out about judicial hearings . Clearly the Williams girls are not devout witnesses it doesn't mean they don't believe what the WTBTS says , I've known many people that just up and say I believe the witnesses but just don't want to be one . A very strange stand to make . The sports industry is all about greed and creature worship , I don't know how the WTBTS can just clam up over it ,it's obviously a distraction from all they believe in as far not being part of the world , all other witness wouldn't be allowed to go to the YMCA to play tennis and certainly not with the intent on winning but only for the exercise ,these people are on international TV playing high stakes games , promoting all sorts of commercial and worldly interests . I think the US army or marines are even part sponsor , at least in football they are.
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romans 8:9
by heathen inhow does the wtbts explain that ???
the great crowd in their dogma ,have no spirit yet claim to be christian ... any comments ?
in short it says that those that do not have christs spirit do not belong to him ....
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I know they consider the great crowd as foreign proselytes to the christian covenant but I also believe you have to pray for Gods spirit , if you don't ask you won't receive , as jesus said , "anything you ask in my name will be given you". John 14:13 The holy spirit was also called the helper or spirit of truth in vrs. 17 Actually tonight they did encourage all to pray at any given opportunity but did not suggest for the holy spirit . They never pray for it at the congregations prayer yet always give thanks for the truth and FDS instructions ........ That's the way I'm looking at it for now ........
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Please....need some help (re Armageddon)
by lavendar in.
does anyone know of any wts book(s) or magazines that state that only jehovah's witnesses will be spared by jehovah god at armageddon.....and everyone else (6 billion people) will be destroyed?
i'm having a dialog with a family member and this topic came up.. lavendar .
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I think the question is , is there a publication without that in it .......... nope , don't think so .
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Any Who fans?
by Dagney infyi, tomorrow night on vh1 there is a program honoring the who.
i'm a massive townsend fan.... "long live rock!
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The who rocks....