i am hereby, for the next 24 hours at least, swearing off all serious topics.
yesterday was a brain-fry day, what with the harassment stuff, a call from our medicaid lawyer regarding my mother's application (not good news), doing bills, and fleeing to the gym at lunch only to find out i've gained two pounds since last week.. today at lunch i am going shopping by myself.
i am going to my favorite resale/antique clothing shop down the street and see if i can find something eye-popping for the apostafest.
Cruz,
Take some time for yourselves, you and your hubby deserve it!
Bubblebaths with pretty candles everywhere are my favorite way to relax, followed by snuggling, a glass of wine, my favorite coffee or a hot cup of tea.
Sometimes I find that if I step into a room that doesnt contain my children, I instantly relax.
I cant imagine why.
while i was away tending to the birth - two weeks early - of my first child's first child, and therefore unavailable to continue with my high level conversation with some of you fine folk, it was charged that "francois isn't, won't, can't, refuses to, etc.
" respond.
um, folks, i do have a life outside this board, and to prove it, i submit herewith exhibits a - .
Awwwwwww....
Congratulations!!! What a perfect, adorable, cute, cuddly, little baby!
Quit posting those pics, yer makin me want another one.....
well valentine's day is almost here...but the most romantic thing my husband ever did for me came a few days earlier - on my birthday.. this is the very first birthday i am openly celebrating since leaving so he took me to my favorite restaurant sat.
night.
as we were walking in, i said, "someday i would love a big birthday party with all my family" (sans jw parents of course).
The most romantic thing anyone has ever done for me is,
loved me...
i guess you know i love you.. but what i would really like to do right now.
is ravish you until you see god.. .
and there's no point in asking.
LT,
Seems like we havent posted on the same threads in quite awhile. I do know that I have always enjoyed your posts and usually seemed to agree with what you have to say.
I have become a little thicker skinned these last couple of years. Im not as offended and dont get as angry as I used to. Still, sometimes certain issues hit close to home and I find it impossible to keep from voicing my opinion.
Then again, I guess thats why we are all here, right?
& thanks so much, Im looking very forward to meeting you too!
See you soon!
i guess you know i love you.. but what i would really like to do right now.
is ravish you until you see god.. .
and there's no point in asking.
LT,
Not sure if you were refering to my having my knickers in a twist or not. I totally understand what you mean, certain things being considered entertainment and not to be taken seriously etc.
I am not offended or affected by Robs poems at all. I think they are very deep. I dont think everything should be analyzed either. My post was mainly about Robs comment about her poem regarding death being "just a poem" after many were concerned she was serious. I personally am not troubled by thoughts of suicide, but do I know others who are.
The sad truth is, if someone feeling suicidal hears someone taking the subject lightly, they may feel a little upset whether its written in the friends section, depression section or even the sports section.
I once read a joke on the board and I became totally upset because the thread title involved being gang raped. I really liked the person who posted it, and I still do, but at the time, I felt that she was making light and actually joking about being gang raped. I guess I was just more sensitive to it than others, and I found that out soon enough.
I have finally accepted the fact that I will probably never be able to laugh at everything that everyone else can. I have accepted the fact that I will probably always have to leave the theater, or turn the channel when a movie depicts rape, violence or things of that nature because I have lived through it.
These things are meant to be entertainment and I am aware that they are to some, even if others are sensitive to its contents.
I honestly wasnt judging. I guess I was just trying to explain why some people may be reacting the way they are. People just feel things, ya know?
i guess you know i love you.. but what i would really like to do right now.
is ravish you until you see god.. .
and there's no point in asking.
Robyn,
I honestly dont think anyone is judging you. If they are, I dont agree with them.
I believe that some people may just be sensitive to certain subject matter and they may be just reacting to your casual, or lighthearted behavior on the very topic that they are most sensitive to. It happens, I know I have reacted strongly to certain topics myself in the past. I find myself shying away from abuse threads and threads discussing the JW blood doctrine, for this very reason.
Im guessing that some poeple may have also felt a bit mislead since they may feel that your responses led them to believe that the secret person in your love poem actually existed. Not that its anyones buisness anyway.
I believe that everyone should be able to express themselves. I really think that in light of recent happenings, many are just leery of what is written and are being more cautious, or are simply reacting based on their own personal experience with what you have written and how you are responding to them.
Edited by - heaven on 11 February 2003 1:7:29
i guess you know i love you.. but what i would really like to do right now.
is ravish you until you see god.. .
and there's no point in asking.
Robyn,
I think what Elsewhere and others may be reacting to, is your general light treatment of your, "Fuck it, I think I'll die" comment after others had assumed it was referring to suicide. Those who have felt like dying, or do not care to live, may have felt slighted by the lighthearted way you worded it, or maybe just the casual way you spoke about it being, "just a poem" afterward.
Again, I am relieved that you werent serious about the ending of your poem, but I think many people can only wish their suicidal feelings were, "just a poem" to them. The fact is, these feelings are very real to some people. Many people struggle to keep from swallowing a bottle of pills, or slitting their wrists on a daily basis and may be sensitive to this subject.
If you dont want to tell anyone who you wrote the love poem about, I dont think you should have to. I dont believe its anyones buisness anyway, to tell you the truth.
You mentioned that you were depressed, crying and lonely when you wrote the poem, but yet you responded cheerfully and playfully to everyone who commented. The way you responded to the many people who posted, gave many of us the impression that you were happy and the person you spoke of in the poem really existed. That may be the way you handle things, I dont know, and if he does exist, its not our buisness.
I believe many people on the board are on gaurd right now. With everything that has been going on, people may be leery and not sure who to trust.
When something is posted, people usually assume the person who is writing, is telling the truth. The words may be not even have to be of much importance, "Im doing this", "Im going here" etc. but to find out later that that person has been fabricating stories or feelings, for whatever reason, can makes others feel uncomfortable and mistrust any future statements comming from this person, or from anyone for that matter.
This isnt just about poems or stories. Its about everything posted on the board. Of course things can be entertaining and fun and shouldnt always be taken seriously, but if someone notices that something they wrote is being taken out of context, they should clarify it right away, so as not to mislead anyone.
Edited by - heaven on 10 February 2003 23:36:20
not that i would ever go back but valis brought up an interesting subject in another thread.. what would the borg be like if... .
they let women be elders?.
they treated women as equals?.
Women Elders?
Oh, theyde love that huh?
Actually, I can imagine it. I love the idea. If I could stand to be a witness, I might even think about staying and trying to help make it happen.
I think many changes would have to happen before that could even be a thought though. Unfortionatly, I cant imagine any of this happening during my lifetime, but we can always dream, right?
*sigh* you know when you want something really, really bad, and suddenly you get it, and you wonder if its gonna last, and if its for real?
i got that now with my dad.
after 23 years of not being in touch with the man, i am having a good relation with him.
Viv,
That is so nice!
My father disappeared before I was born so I also didnt know him, growing up.
I had his parents address, but my mother never allowed contact since she believed that they were covering up my fathers whereabouts so he wouldnt have to pay child support, etc.
When I was about to be married, I decided to take a chance and send an invitation to my father, at his parents address. Well the wedding came and went and I hadnt heard from him so I kindof just wrote him off. I figured well, at least I tried, ya know?
Not long into my marriage, I was sitting in my living room and the phone rang. I walked to the phone, picked it up and said Hello. The strange voice on the other end asked who I was, so I said my name. He was crying by now and he repiled, "Hi, this is your dad".
I remember just sitting there in shock, on the floor, with the phone to my ear. I couldnt say a thing for the longest time. Do you know what its like to have a million questions, but not being able to bring yourself to mouth a single one? Its like, the word "Dad" seemed so foreign to me. I had never called anyone "Dad" in my entire life and to hear some strange person on the phone, tell me he was my dad, was so overwhelmingly bizarre.
We have kept in contact over the years. We write letters, send cards etc. I believe him when he says he wishes he could change the past and that he is sorry for what he did, but I still cant bring myself to call him "Dad". Im honestly not angry at all, I just dont feel comfortable calling him, or anyone else for that matter, "Dad". He does sign all of his letters, "Love Dad" and is trying to be a good grandfather to my son and daughter.
I believe relationships can last forever, especially if we have realistic expectations. If we realize that nobody is perfect and if we are capable of forgivness, we should always be able to make new friends and keep the friends and family that we do have.
That is, as long as they want to be in our lives and the relationship isnt distructive in the first place, ya know?
I wish you and your father only the best and I hope you are always able to remain friends.
Take Care.
many years ago, as a young child, i purchased my mother a gift when she was in the hospital.
it is a pot painted with purple orchids and it came with flowering bulbs to plant, which has a little saying on it "a mother's love fills the world with happiness.
" every trinket that i bought or made over the years, my mother cherished.
Tex,
So sweet, thank you. They are such little things, but they mean so much.
Finding things about someone after they pass away can be so powerful. Its too bad we didnt know about these things when they were here, so we could have given them a big hug.
Who knows, maybe this is their way of hugging us, even though they cant be with us.
