This actually happened to me as a teenager. Not as severe as the other cases. I remembered feeling sick during the final song, and during the prayer I collapsed. ( Don't know how long the prayer continued as I was unconsious) They did call an ambulance after a while. All I remember was looking over at my mom who was looking at me like I was embarrasing the *ish out of her.
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The SHOW must go on!!!
by leaving-jws ini remember when i was a kid in "the truth.
there was an elderly sister that had a heart attack during the meeting.
she made loud gasping sounds as she was holding on for dear life.
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After years I visited my Disfellowshiped Sister and "worldly" husband! CRY!
by Witness 007 ini've been away to visit my sister and her "worldly" husband after many years of not seeing her...i don't even have her phone number as she lives overseas.
we just had a first family get together.
when she met me at the door i was ready for anything!
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It's so nice to read stories that have a happy ending... your experience with your sister warms the heart.
thanks for sharing
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My first post
by BonaFide ini prayed before i came on here.
i know that it weird.
i have been reading here for a long time.
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o never mind...
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My first post
by BonaFide ini prayed before i came on here.
i know that it weird.
i have been reading here for a long time.
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Welcome Bonafide,
I have been reading here for a long time. Ever since I was studying the 1989 WT and noticed that it was changed in the bound volume. 'Preaching work will be completed in this century' changed to 'preaching work completed in our time.'
Wow, I'm also new and I knew that the WT flip flopped and later apologized and have misrepresented outside sources. But I did not know they went back and changed WT's for bound/future volumes. Talk about deception....
Sticking around here, you learn something new everyday....
One argument I have regularly with my husband is how it is possible for a single organization to "own" the truth. Doesn't truth stand on it's own merit? That is, nobody can own it, and nobody can claim to have it all. Truth stands on it's own. Every action that you take is down the road of truth or it is not.
JG.. I really like this argument and may use it one day. I never thought of it this way. This is a keeper, thanks!
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Juts for fun: Stupid reasons why you WON'T leave the JWs
by outofthebox inhere is mine: .
i have to much money invested in ties and suits, i can't leave!!
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....... because i need to use up the other 94 of 100 plastic name tag holders i bought for the district conventions
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Juts for fun: Stupid reasons why you WON'T leave the JWs
by outofthebox inhere is mine: .
i have to much money invested in ties and suits, i can't leave!!
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....MMM, wow I'm old enough to remember the shastas
Why I won't leave, I'd have a Christmas list longer than my left arm..... I wouldn't have an excuse to get out of birthday parties with my inlaws.....
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Musings of a fader: July 4 picnic
by truthseeker ini have been a fader for sometime now.
yesterday was the first time that i went to a july 4 picnic and fireworks - not that i went to specifically celebrate that day, i just wanted to get out and see people, see life.. i was raised in the truth and because of this i had many preconceived notions and ideas - one of them being that worldly people weren't fit to associate with, that anyone not serving jehovah would only "spoil my useful habits.".
i wandered around the park and for the first time i just observed people without any pre-existing conditions - there was a lot of activities for children, face painting, candle making and various rides and people dressed up as cartoon characters.
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That's something to think about. There are ones at my former congregation whose attitudes and general personality stunk far worse than many of the wordly people I've met. And they do this all the while looking down on everyone that's not a jw.
But it has been hard to let go of some of the ingrained jw snootie-ness and being judgemental, like everytime I talk to someone with a potty mouth or that's cheating on his/her mate, I automatically jump on guard thinking they are bad association or afraid of being contaminated by "the spirit of the world'.
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I've seen a whole lot of NEWBS here lately glad to see the new blood...
by zeroday inwelcome all new ones to a breath of fresh air...i lingered in the polluting air of the kingdom hall for 28 years before i steped out for air.....i hope you did not wait that long...
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Troggle... what I do is before I hit the 'submit' button, I always do a CTRL + A ( this highlights everything) and a CTRL + C (this copies what you've selected). That way if it disappears into thin air, then the only thing you have to do is a CTRL + V ( paste what you've copied). Long story short, a copy and paste.
Welcome to all the newbies, including myself.
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DC Experiences - reality vs. perception
by sir82 inat a recent dc, an elderly sister was interviewed.
she recounted how she endured through many years of her husband's opposition, never giving up, until finally he relented.
eventually, he bacame baptized and joined her in the full-time pioneer work.. end of experience.
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I would have been in the audience feeling guilty because I wasn't doing more, more, more.........
Which to me seems to be the whole point in these experiences, not really to bring praise to Jehovah, but to guilt trip you into feeling like you must give up everything you have going for yourself - job, house, means of living, education, etc. in order to be whole souled. During the DC, they forget to mention that no one can 'earn' everlasting life, no matter how much you give up or how many hours you put in field service. At all the assemblies and meetings I've been to, that little nugget of information is always glossed over.
It's so crazy what the average jw doesn't know and would never know if they did not know the ones giving these experiences personally. Thanks for the post... really eye-opening, albeit sad.
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What determined the path you took once you came to your senses?
by donny ini have been reading a lot of posts over the past few weeks and noticed how some folks have taken the atheist/agnostic path, while others have replaced their zeal for the society into one of another faith.
what led you to take the path you did?.
for me, i just began doing a lot of deep thinking and trying to come to the most logical conclusion based on the facts that i had before me.. as a result, i have taken the agnostic path because it makes the most sense to me.
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At this point, after much examination of my personal situation, I still believe in the Bible and in Christianity in general. Why? Because I believe that a life led according to Bible principles is a good one. This coming from years of experience not living a Christian life and seeing the devastating results. Even though I learned about the Bible through a clouded jw lens, the basic principles make sense to me and in a lot of ways have caused my life to improve dramatically. Not saying that I'm problem free, just saying that applying biblical principles has helped when dealing with those inevitable problems.
But this is still very new to me as I have not examined what I really believe happens after death as far as the resurrection, heavenly or earthly existence.
BTW - isn't that quote in the original post regarding 'testicals and emissions' a figurative one? If read in context of the 23rd chapter, it is really talking about Samaria and Jerusalem and their fate as a result of them 'prostituting' themselves ( again figurative language). Even though this may seem revolting to a casual reader, I believe the language is used as a strong metaphor for their deeds. This reminds me of Jesus' referring to eating his body and drinking his blood. This was revolting to the pharisees and other religious leaders because they took the words as literal. I don't think the Bible needs to be PC (politically correct) because most of the western world needs a watered down version of speech. I think strong, and yes, even revolting language used in the Bible serves a purpose even if the listener is too squeamish to hear it.