Posts by AuntBee

The Life-giver is present; and, since 1878, when he took his great power and began the exercise of his authority, none of his members need to sleep. -Thy Kingdom Come, 1891, page 240.

Since that time it has been emphatically manifest that the time had come in A.D. 1878 when kingly judgment should begin at the house of God. It is here that Rev. 14:14-20 applies, and our Lord is brought to view as the Reaper crowned. The year A.D. 1878, being the parallel of his assuming power and authority in the type, clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord-the time of his taking to himself his great power to reign, which in the prophecy is closely associated with the resurrection of his faithful, and the beginning of the trouble and wrath upon the nations.-The Time Is At Hand, 1902, page 239.

Jesus' Invisible Presence began in 1874:

"Pastor Russell...believed and taught that we are living in the time of the second presence of our Lord, and that his presence dates from 1874..."
(WT December 1, 1916 p. 5998)

"Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus Christ is present and has been since 1874. "
(WT January 1, 1924 p. 5)

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Lots of JWs out at tables this morning!

by AuntBee in

so, i actually stopped at two different tables that i saw.

the first was 2 elderly men - they were so sweet and open to discuss.

i brought up the topic of the divine name and why the wt inserted it into the nt with no evidence from greek manuscripts.

AuntBee

Irondork - LOL, spitting out my coffee! You and most of the others on here have such a sharp wit/sense of humor, even after all you've been through! I so appreciate all the posters on JWN, they have so much to say, and i learn a lot from them all. xoxox

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Lots of JWs out at tables this morning!

by AuntBee in

so, i actually stopped at two different tables that i saw.

the first was 2 elderly men - they were so sweet and open to discuss.

i brought up the topic of the divine name and why the wt inserted it into the nt with no evidence from greek manuscripts.

AuntBee

Sorry, before 6 am, forgot to switch to CHrome.

THanks for letting me share, and the kind comments. -- Several asked about tables. Yes, it's like Breakfast said, they bring their own tables, and spread out the literature, and speak to anyone who comes up. Often they are in a park, or in front of a library or store. It's pretty common here in Tucson, where the weather is usually sunny. It seems that it's often the very elderly ones or those with physical problems doing tables.

YES! How ironic to deprecate witnessing that is not "door to door" while sitting at a table. That escaped me until you guys pointed it out.

Fernando - Those articles sound really interesting, never heard of them before. I will look them up, thanks!

Designs - come to Tucson, and we'll go for Mexican! yum.

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Lots of JWs out at tables this morning!

by AuntBee in

so, i actually stopped at two different tables that i saw.

the first was 2 elderly men - they were so sweet and open to discuss.

i brought up the topic of the divine name and why the wt inserted it into the nt with no evidence from greek manuscripts.

AuntBee

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Lots of JWs out at tables this morning!

by AuntBee in

so, i actually stopped at two different tables that i saw.

the first was 2 elderly men - they were so sweet and open to discuss.

i brought up the topic of the divine name and why the wt inserted it into the nt with no evidence from greek manuscripts.

AuntBee

I don't mind Puff; it's in Tucson, arizona.

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Lots of JWs out at tables this morning!

by AuntBee in

so, i actually stopped at two different tables that i saw.

the first was 2 elderly men - they were so sweet and open to discuss.

i brought up the topic of the divine name and why the wt inserted it into the nt with no evidence from greek manuscripts.

AuntBee

So, i actually stopped at two different tables that i saw. The first was 2 elderly men - they were so sweet and open to discuss. I brought up the topic of the divine name and why the WT inserted it into the NT with no evidence from Greek manuscripts. They repeatedly brought up the Old Testament, and various translations of the NT, but i kept bringing it back to the Greek manuscripts. (There is a great article on this on www.orthocath.wordpress.com) I also mentioned there is no record of Jesus saying the divine name, although admittedly, He did speak about God's name, as in "hallowed be thy name". I mentioned that In Malachi, the prophet accuses the priests of despising God's name, but this meant they did not obey/honor Him, as it clearly goes on to say they despised His name by offering imperfect sacrifices, contrary to the Law. It didn't mean they said one word instead of another, or neglected to use YHWH. I asked if they are allowed to study the Bible without publications, and of course they said it is encouraged. So i asked them where in the Bible it describes the early church, and wrote down a little study about looking up the word "name" in the book of Acts, to see the name emphasized by the early church, and they said they would. These 2 men had a very different attitude than many JWs i've talked to at my door, tables, etc. They had a sad feeling about them, and seemed to have no "fire" to answer my questions, and were very quiet. They said several times in response to things i said were in older publications, that they would not believe this unless they saw it, but they will look it up. I told them about a man i know of who is now going into hospice, rather than take blood for a condition that could be easily cured. I asked if they knew of the changes about fractions, and also suggested they call Brooklyn if they or loved ones need any blood product, because in the past people have gotten different responses from calling, before stuff was in print, so it could save their life to call, as many believe the policy is in a state of flux. -- They said a sister was coming to take over the table, and she wants to study with me, so i gave her my info.

The next table was completely different. Two women, elderly mother and daughter. The mother immediately became very irate and hostile when i just calmly asked a few questions, and started walking around, very agitated. The daughter was more patient for a while, and took my info and said someone would get back to help with my questions. Again, i wanted to give some info on blood. You know how it is , she wanted to detour with the dangers of transfusion ,etc. But i pressed a bit, and asked if they ever apologized after changes on their stance. Showed her the magazine pic of the children who died, and said probably even some of them could have been saved by fractions that weren't allowed at that time. She went completely ballistic, and took the paper with my info, held it up in front of my face, tearing it up. CONVERSATION OVER! As i left, she called out that i will die soon, but she'll pray for Jehovah for me. Yikes, i think a few people walking by heard her!

I mentioned that i was out preaching, contrary to what they say that no one else preaches, but she said it didn't count because it's not door to door. !!

(and don't scold me for being a Protestant, or i'll never come back. pfff. LOL)

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The KNOW-IT-ALL: what makes them tick?

by Terry in

we can hardly get through a week on planet earth without an encounter with a know-it-all.. this none-too-rare creature is ever ready to volunteer to enlighten us in our apparent ignorance.. the know-it-all tells us we are wrong (implying they are right) and sets us straight.

and the best part?

we can barely finish a sentence when the know-it-all corrects us!.

AuntBee

This is SUCH an interesting topic, Terry! I just got a book from the library called "First Impressions". I think it's primarily written for people in business to improve their social/conversation skills, but it would certainly apply to anyone who talks to people, and desires to have friends.

You're completely right - it is so ill-mannered, and it is epidemic! I feel the same way as you do - it just amazes me. I also feel sorry for people who feel so compelled to do the things you are describing. They have no idea of the loss of friendship they experience as a result, and true friends are one of the riches of life!

Do you think the internet has exacerbated the problem somewhat? I mean, i notice especially younger people, google something, read a few web sites real quick ,and act like instant experts. In the old days, you'd have to get a library book , or buy a book, on whatever you wanted to learn more about. Thus, no one could really be an 'expert' on everything, unless they had time to read books all day. And being forced to read a whole book on something allows more time for reflection and critical thinking, and of course, covers the topic in a deeper way, hopefully. (i'm not "demonizing" the internet at all - i LOVE it myself. )

People love it when you ask them about their beliefs and opinions. They appreciate it when you try to understand where they're coming from, and acknowledge good points they make that you never thought about before.

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Will Embracing the Internet lead to Increased Growth for the Watchtower?

by jwfacts in

more important than the reduction in the size of the new magazine is that the watchtower will be actively promoting its website and encouraging people use it to download magazines.

my concern is that this has the potential to lead to an increase in growth for the watchtower.. the door-to-door preaching work has been one of the most inefficient means imaginable to gain converts, and done little more than tie up the time of active jws.

now, by directing people to the internet, witnesses can spread their message at an alarming rate for little cost.. do you feel that this has the potential to lead to a surge in growth of jehovah's witnesses?

AuntBee

Billy the ex: "Hab SoSII' Quch!"

haha, just kidding.