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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-12-09 WT Study (DAY NEAR)

by blondie in

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(b) pressing on to maturity requires effort in what two areas?

(read hebrews 5:14.

2:10) moreover, their perceptive powers are trained through use--through application of what they know--helping them to distinguish right from wrong.

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8. Regularly reading a portion of God's Word allows its message to 'exert power' on us. (Read Hebrews 4:12.) Such reading can mold our inner person and make us more pleasing to Jehovah. Do you have a personal need to schedule more time to read the Bible and meditate on what it says?

Interesting. So, the WTS is teaching that reading black ink on white paper exerts power on us. Is that what the writer of Hebrews was trying to convey? Where is the mention of praying for the Spirit to guide, counsel and comfort via the reading of the Word?

The WTS are determined to keep the R&F in a dead and dormant state by their pattern and program of "spiritual" feeding. It's amazing how alive the Bible becomes once your remove the filter of "faithful and discreet slave" provisions and replace it with the Comforter.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-12-09 WT Study (DAY NEAR)

by blondie in

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(b) pressing on to maturity requires effort in what two areas?

(read hebrews 5:14.

2:10) moreover, their perceptive powers are trained through use--through application of what they know--helping them to distinguish right from wrong.

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7. "Everyone that partakes of milk is unacquainted with the word of righteousness," wrote Paul, "for he is a babe." (Heb. 5:13) To attain maturity, we must become well acquainted with God's word, his message to us. Since this message is contained in his Word, the Bible, we should be good students of the Scriptures and the publications of "the faithful and discreet slave." (Matt. 24:45-47) Absorbing God's thinking in this way can help us to train our perceptive powers. Consider the example of a Christian named Orchid. * She says: "The reminder that has had the biggest effect on my life is the one about regular Bible reading. It took me about two years to finish the whole Bible, but it seemed that I was meeting my Creator for the first time. I learned about his ways, his likes and his dislikes, the degree of his power, and the depth of his wisdom. Reading the Bible daily has sustained me through some of the darkest moments of my life."

Couple of things. Firstly, since when is the Bible God's message to the R&F? The WTS have consistently taught that the Bible, the NT in particular, is only for the 144,000 anointed. How, then, can they expect the non-anointed (i.e. those not having the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of truth) upon them to get any satisfaction from reading the Bible? The Spirit of truth is made available to those who want to be led into truth. It is not dependent on sect, denomination, age, gender, class, geographical location, historical position or any other factor. Pray for the Spirit, he comes and teaches you. Don't read the Bible without him!

Secondly, once again the WTS puts their publications, which they admit are not inspired of the Spirit, with the Bible, which is inspired;

Since this message is contained in his Word, the Bible, we should be good students of the Scriptures and the publications of "the faithful and discreet slave."

Lastly, reading the Bible in two years isn't special. I personally know of many, many Christians who read the whole Bible each year. I'm also well along in this programme of daily reading via the Daily Audio Bible Podcast.

Perhaps it's harder for JWs to spend the time needed to read the whole Bible in a year due to all of the uninspired publications of the "faithful and discreet slave" that they've got to churn through. That's what happens when you put the words of "nobles and earthling man" on the same level of importance as the Bible.

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MUST SEE!!! Best Youtube Video on Theocratic Warfare that I've ever seen!!!

by Tuesday in

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hey everyone, i don't think the maker of the video is on the board so i figured i'd post this video here.

this one absolutely floored me, it was put together so concisely; it's just incredibly difficult to deny the theocratic warfare method when viewing this video... without further ado, the video:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6yssa2dj_u.

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The reality with the Elder's book is that a lot of the R&F do not know about it's existence. As a new elder I was discouraged from mentioning the book to the R&F as they may be stumbled to learn of it's existence.

In fact, when the two local elders visited me to tell me of my appointment, they handed me my book and told me to hide it and to not even tell my wife about it.

So, if the book isn't a secret, why is there so much secrecy surrounding it?

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My Assignment For Ray Franz

by sacolton in

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today i met the widow of ed dunlap, who was of the watchtower writing committee and a great thinker.

he found that the watchtower was not in harmony with the scriptures, so they disfellowshipped him.

when ray franz was disfellowshipped, it was ed who took him in and gave ray a job and a place to stay.

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Ed was in the Writing Department and according to CoC, was a very humble man who didn't want to think more of him self than was necessary. He endured a lot of hassle at Bethel. At one point he was in a lot of pain from his back. Nathan Knorr decided that it would be better for Ed to work in the bindery for a while, that this somehow would help his back pain. Ed went along, humbly, with this, but according to CoC it made him realise just how much power and control the Org had over his life.

It was Ed and Ray, while researching the Commentary on James book (yes, it's the only commentary the WTS have produced) that they discovered that the sick who were to have oil poured on them and prayed for were in fact the physically sick, not the spiritually sick that the WTS claims.

Ed was disfellowshipped, but upon hearing of the JC's decision, said, "Ok, but don't you dare say it was for apostasy".

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Watchtower (Study) April 15, 2009

by CharlieBrownsLovelyDaughter in

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does anyone have a pdf copy?.

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Try here

http://web.me.com/mjhunter/wt/studywatchtowers.html

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New book - Any thoughts?

by Jack Burton in

i'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the latest steaming pile of $#@!

from the convention this year.

my mother in law took the kids to the convention for one day.

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I'd like more quotes from the book, please!

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Do The Magazines Suggest Organizational Decay?

by metatron in

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july 2009 awake: "why am i afraid to share my faith?

" this article assumes that jehovah's witness children are ashamed of their faith!.

it says "define your fears" and "accept the challenge".

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We need to remember what the purpose of the Watch Tower Society is; to announce Jehovah's Kingdom. They believe that kingdom arrived in 1914. Why on earth would they want to remind people of that, nearly 100 years after the event?

Also, the Watch Tower Society has chosen to eschew much of what the Bible teaches about Christ and the Holy Spirit and the effect a relationship with has on your life. So, they can't fill the magazine with stuff like that.

They're pretty much stuck pedaling the same eschatological nonsense that's been embarrassing them for decades.

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Could Watchtower Collapse Be Sooner Than You Think?

by metatron in

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there have been a number of developments over the past few months and they paint an interesting picture.. witnesses can keep dragging themselves to meetings ad infinitum however, the future of the watchtower itself is another story.

the evidence of continuing cash flow problems is now overwhelming.

if you talk to well placed witnesses, most won't deny it but simply blame it on the publishers financial problems.. they have cut off loans to congregations many of whom genuinely need new kingdom halls.

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Great post, Willy.

And I agree with Ynot;

In the end..... this is not a sect that was ever suppose to see the 21st century!

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Why do the JW's say miracles are from Beelzebub

by androb31 in

the jw's claim that modern day miracles (prophesying, healing, tongues) are from the devil.

the following is their reasoning why they believe this (from an article on the jw official website).

this is rather arbitrary when the cited scripture is read.

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Members of these religions claim that miracles prove that their religion is blessed by God. But so-called miracles do not prove that a religion has Jehovah’s approval.

Strawman.

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The Last (Lord's) Supper

by PSacramento in

i wanted to ask this question beacuse at the last memorial supper it caught my attention more than it ever did:.

why do some (not just the jw's) believe that judas did not partkae of the lord's supper, the bread and the wine?.

in the synoptic gospels of matt, mark and luke, there is nomention of judas being sent away, indeed in luke jesus says "behold the hand of the betrayer at the table with me".. while in john judas is sent away, he is sent after the supper, though it is not clear if this was the lord's supper since there is no mention of the the partaking of the wine and bread in john.. help would be greatly appreciated.. .

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In my personal experience, Jehovah's Witnesses have no problem criticising, misinterpreting, or ignoring verses in the Bible that contradict their doctrines. If the Watch Tower Society has no comment to make about a verse, that verse is then viewed as being irrelevant.