Welcome
You are the start of a very long hard road.
It is a road that must be traveled
i joined jwd about 3 weeks ago and have been "lurking" for those 3 weeks.....til now.
a little about me....was born into the "truth" along with 4 other siblings.none of us have anything to do with the "truth.
" i'm the oldest in my 30's married my h.s.
Welcome
You are the start of a very long hard road.
It is a road that must be traveled
i am mature adult and have been living with a j.w.
for the past 3.5 years.
when we meet he was not practicing has not practice for some few years.
Welcome
Many listening ears here for you
This is a tough spot your in
There are many things that you need to understand
about what is going on with your friend
Start talking to us
Start asking questions
Do what we can
what a waste of living being "in the truth" was!
sometimes i see persons suggesting that the witness religion isn't all so wrong.
actually they suggest that they themselves are the issue.
Since I was born-in it is really hard to tell what or what not
I would have learned or experienced outside of the religion.
It would be a useless mental exercise at best.
What is indesputable, in my mind, is that
they are a CULT.
By that very definition alone they are wrong.
For me to say any less would be an attempt
to give some type of "Moral Equalivence" to them.
No matter what teachings they teach that are correct,
No matter what sayings they have that are true,
No matter how sincere they may be,
NOTHING can change the harmful and dangerous
aspect of cultism and mind control.
It is in our own self interest to NEVER forget this!!
Selfish it may be but all life has a built in desire
to preserve itself. Cults attempt to destroy that.
If we ever hope to grow and improve ourselves
we must never stop learning and thinking for ourselves.
Pressing our own thoughts and agendas concerning
this or that misses the point of the real danger.
Any person,
political party,
corporation,
philisophy,
religion,
nation or state,
that does such a thing
needs to be condemed for what they are.
Not praised for the fact that "they made the trains run on time".
my cousin - who was also my best friend for 35 years have been involved in an email exchange in recent weeks.
previous to that he was mostly shunning me.
without getting into details, he had given me room to explain things, especially as to how i have 'changed' as a result of leaving.
Jeff
Wow
Well said
just wanted to say i love you guys !
it's so wonderful to see so much love and understanding after being in the horrible cult !
i'll tell my story later but i just wanted to say hello for now !
Welcome TLISB
i've been reading a few pages of threads from saturday until today and i can't understand why some,(actually very few) try to damage this site.
this is one of a handful of (ex)jw sites that really helps people get out of the organization.
the interaction that we have here shows anyone how we can leave the so- called "truth" and enjoy life!
I like this site
Find it very open for a moderated site
Rules are plainly stated
Myself guilty of posting things
that can be taken 2 ways
Irreverant I am
Not inconsiderate
I like to play
Everyone here takes it well
Thanks to all posters
Thanks to all PM ers
Thanks to mods
In particular, thanks to Simon for inviting
us into his "home". He doesn't get upset if
sometimes we forget to take our shoes off
at the door.
check this out.
this is what we're up against.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/1kiruj6v7sb8n/ref=cm_syt_dtpa_f_1_rdsssl0?pf_rd_p=253457301&pf_rd_s=sylt-center&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0941813053&pf_rd_m=atvpdkikx0der&pf_rd_r=0r7kvqvgpv0ddbnzn1hb.
A review based on the canned replys
I will guarantee this person never read any of the books
I have heard those exact comments made so many times
it absolutely sickens me
Just a bunch of programmed wind up toys
Problem is they are dangerous wind up toys
They really aren't even that much fun to play with
i understand i jump around too much in my comments.
my add gets worse when i get nervous.
plus i know there are topics that could be more academic.
I recommend getting a reality education
Read Ray Franz books
These will open your eyes to reality
You can keep your faith if you choose
You can absolutely lose the cult
It's a difficult journey
It can take some time
Set you path and press forward
Just about everyone is willing to help
You will find more compassion here
than you ever will find in that "group".
just to review, i had my meeting today with the two elders who say a sister has accused me of "grinding" with her and thus porneia.
so i printed out several of your comments on how to defend myself.
i felt good about standing my ground, and repeating that i had not "grinded" with this ex-friend and that she wants to ruin the relationship i have now with the sister i am dating.. however, the two elders today really tried to pressure me.
Resign any positions you have
or don't have for that matter
and WALK AWAY!!
They are going to hound you and get you
anyway, so why tolerate the crap!!
Let them do as they will.
It's all meaningless anyway.
God could care less about a little
Ummmm.... whatever you call it.
Move on
Get a new life
Most of these twitchy ladies
will probable come looking for you
after you go anyway.
Yea. Sweet!!
i was watching a documentary on public television last night.
it was about the cold war.
i'm wondering if anyone remembers or has done research on what the wts attitude and stance was during that time.
The drum beat of armageddon
is always pounding................
Just sometimes it's louder and faster.
It's a know winner for keeping the R & F
in line and drooling