Posts by witnessgirl

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Information on the J Sources?

by Mebaqqer2 in

i was wondering about two things.

does any one have more detailed information on the j-sources used by the new world translation?

names of books, publisher, etc.?

I definitely recall having read that the New Testament J sources were medieval translations of the scriptures into Hebrew. I can try to hunt down the source if you're interested. I don't recall there having been specific identifications of the manuscripts, however.

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Smaller congregations are better?

by NotaNess in

i keep hearing this from the dubs at work.

have heard complaints about being in bigger congregations.

all i can think at those moments is... "do they even realize they are complaining about "jehovah's" arrangements"?

witnessgirl

Both congregations I've belonged to were about 50 pubs at any given time. Whenever I'd see Society material showing much larger Kingdom Halls, my thoughts were always that those congs must have a lot of elders.

Ever look in the Yearbooks at some of the Branches that have almost no pubs? I remember seeing various islands and other really remote places that had like 4-10 pubs and 1 cong. I've always wondered what that's like.

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REQ: OKS August 1980

by witnessgirl in

i've been reading raymond franz's book "crisis of conscience", and i noticed that his quotations from the august 1980 oks differ from what's on the watchtower library cd (big suprise, i know).

i only seem to have december from that year.

i wonder whether anyone might have august 1980 and be willing to scan it.

witnessgirl

He also mentions that his letter of resignation was printed in that issue. I was a little curious as to whether it was a facsimile like in the book or just the text, and how it was presented.

The version on the CD doesn't have that or the part that you quoted, just a brief note in middle of the Announcements section saying that Ray Franz was no longer a member of the GB or Bethel Family.

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REQ: OKS August 1980

by witnessgirl in

i've been reading raymond franz's book "crisis of conscience", and i noticed that his quotations from the august 1980 oks differ from what's on the watchtower library cd (big suprise, i know).

i only seem to have december from that year.

i wonder whether anyone might have august 1980 and be willing to scan it.

witnessgirl

Hello;

I've been reading Raymond Franz's book "Crisis of Conscience", and I noticed that his quotations from the August 1980 OKS differ from what's on the Watchtower Library CD (big suprise, I know). I only seem to have December from that year. I wonder whether anyone might have August 1980 and be willing to scan it. I have lots of old OKM/OKS that I can contribute here in trade, from 1959-1999 (not nearly every issue, but still quite a few). Thanks greatly in advance!

(Incidentally, on the same subject, I notice that the August 1980 Watchtower on the CD is missing the "Signs of Apostasy" piece described in Franz's book. Apoligies if this is old news; I just noticed.)

Heather.

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KM May 2008 - "Be Ready for Every Good Work"

by passwordprotected in

q&a article explaining how to prepare for the ministry and why it's important to do so.

par 2 - how to prepare good preparation starts with becoming acquainted with the literature we plan to offer.

at no point in the article does it mention the bible.

witnessgirl

Does anyone see what I see? The whole thing resembles selling Avon or Mary Kay. The meetings are similar with sales training.

LOL! I always thought that Amway was strikingly similar to the Watchtower organisation. Never looked at it the other way around.

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"Dwelling together in unity" as PDF?

by sovereign in

does anybody have a scanned copy of this?

witnessgirl

Oh, wow! Thanks greatly!

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1972 The Bible in Living English--PDF--(Steven Byington)-by request!

by Atlantis in

request from researcher: back last year, almost a year ago now, you posted in this thread .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/134073/2386444/post.ashx#2386444 .

if you do have it i would be very happy to get a copy.

witnessgirl

$80-$250????

I sold mine on eBay years ago for something like $25. Now I'm really kicking myself.

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Is Jdubs practice of Teenage baptism really any better than Infant Baptism?

by blkblk13 in

so i was thinking the other day about how the jdubs always mock the catholics for baptizing infants who can't make a true commitment to god so the sybol of dedication is empty.

well, as anyone who's been in the org knows there is a culture of pressuring teenagers to get baptized.

if u r over 12yo it is a question that is constantly asked.

witnessgirl

If I recall correctly Jesus wasn't baptized untill he was like 30 right?

Yeah, and he also wore a beard. Funny that Jesus Christ couldn't be baptised as a Witness because of the way that he looked. I'm pretty sure that he smoked cigarettes, too.

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Looking for recent thread about "No personal study groups."

by Confession in

at least one contributor posted about this.

i believe he/she related how the part on the service meeting was covered, but if you know the specific quotes that would be great.

witnessgirl

Thank you very much, blondie, for posting that text from the Kingdom Ministry. I'm really blown away by how much has changed that I've missed over the last few years (I was "in the Truth" from '91-'04). I was really shocked when I heard about the book studies being discontinued (I need to read up on that more, I just found out today), but this is really interesting, the part where studying Greek is discouraged, I mean. Before I was even baptised, a sister in our congregation was kind enough to track down a copy of the Kingdom Interlinear for me because I was interested in biblical ancient languages. It was the old purple one that I only years later found out was a relic from 1969 that by that point had already been replaced by the blue one from the 1980s (although both were fairly rare by that point). Also there was a brother who made an heroic (albeit unsuccessful) effort to try to get a copy of the Emphatic Diaglott for me, which he seemed to be under the impression was a Hebrew interlinear (it was not). I never asked for those books. I mentioned to brothers and sisters that I was interested in biblical languages and they went out looking for obsolete literature for me. I guess that's upbuilding or whatever.

I guess that sort of thing wouldn't happen today, now that the FDS has officially discouraged study of Hebrew and Greek. They could have saved me hundreds of dollars I spent on Hebrew tapes by receiving this light sooner.

It still seems to weird to me, though. If the NWT is such an accurate and outstanding translation, why not encourage the brothers and sisters to study the original languages, so that they can better defend the translation? Wasn't that the whole idea behind the Kingdom Interlinear? And why does Our Kingdom Ministry suppose that the only reason to study these languages would be to attack the NWT? Wouldn't studying those languages because you want to support the NWT be equally likely? I know that's what I was doing.

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Forbidden fields of higher education for JW?

by Shazard in

which are they?

besides christian theology?

which fields are higly not reccomended for jws?

witnessgirl

What's really bizarre- going to college or taking certain courses receives negative reactions from JW's, but having a degree in any of those fields brings positive comments from the dubs. Doing it is wrong, but having completed it is wonderful.

That's exactly what I noticed! If you're interested in actually going to college, everyone will do everything they can to discourage you, but people with degrees get treated with the highest respect, their profession is the first thing that gets mentioned when they're introduced. Grrrr...