i had the weirdest dream last night.... it started with me taking a taxi ride in some city i had never been in before and i kept seeing these billboards which were all black and white and saying: dont go there!
i asked the taxi driver what that was all about and he told me that this was the watchtower society telling everyone not to go to the apostate rocks cafe.. anyway, i told him to immediately take me there and i just cant believe all the people surrounding this place.
there are like thousands and thousands of people wanting to get inside.
Mindchild,
The moral of the story is 'never eat brie before bedtime'.
Actually you sparked of a thought in the business end of my brain. What about an international chain of coffee shops run by apostates. We all pool resources, franchise it, call it 'Cafe Apostalatte'.
Imagine the menu.
Bobyenko Americano, Earl Grey E'Man, Mommy Regular, Expresso a la Farkel, Watchtower Surprise.
HS
it now about two decades after ray franz.
since then it has been very unlikly that another high level wt officers turns apostate because it was only a handful of men that are in their 80s/90s.
last year when the society was restructured a lot of new jobs was created.
Blondie,
He will take the route out of WTS life that I mention above.
I knew a CO in the UK some years ago, a very good friend, young, ex Bethel with a very high profile. When he realised that he had been born into the wrong religion, he impregnated the missus ( with her consent I hasten to add! ), left the CO sevice, became an elder, started a business, resigned due to work load, started missing meetings etc. All carefully planned. He then gradually faded, and now is a very, very succesfull businessman with two wonderful children and life intact.
He planned his exit over five years, as his family were all 'in'. He left without the DF/DA crisis and still interacts with his family.
This is the route I have advised the CO mentioned above to take - and he will. It requires very much patience in the short term, but can make for a happier life long term.
Kind regards - HS
it now about two decades after ray franz.
since then it has been very unlikly that another high level wt officers turns apostate because it was only a handful of men that are in their 80s/90s.
last year when the society was restructured a lot of new jobs was created.
SS,
A common way out for CO's is to gracefully resign under the health or family responsibility angle. They then slip into an elders appointment and then gradually weight of business etc. get the better of them.
They end up being the one discussed at coffee break, you know the type of thing, 'Where is XXXX, haven't seen him lately, he used to be a CO you know, he does not even attend meetings now'!. Coffee cups smack on table tops in disgust.
HS
it now about two decades after ray franz.
since then it has been very unlikly that another high level wt officers turns apostate because it was only a handful of men that are in their 80s/90s.
last year when the society was restructured a lot of new jobs was created.
Hi GermanJw,
If you mean by 'high level' any member of the GB, I doubt it very much. Too much to lose, too little to gain, too late in life.
As for DO's, CO's and prominent elders, my own intuition is that unless some very obvious doctrinal flaws are not attended to quickly, 100's in 'middle-management' will leave within the next five years or so. I am aquainted with one CO who is planning the famous 'fade' quite shortly and have heard of another.
One thing is certain, often the ones who leave are those that the WTS cannot afford to lose.
Like all dictatorships who strive to extinguish the light of intellectualism and free thinking but removing opposition by force, their own regime is the first to suffer. Those who are best placed to re-generate the process of survival are re-placed by ‘yes men’ and syncopates. They shoot themselves in the foot with each thinking and sincere elder that is forced out.
HS
Fred,
While you listen to 'Kraftwerk', please leave us in peace to discuss 'Kraftywerk'.
it has been proven that your choice of favorite cher song is an indication of your iq level.. song related iq.
believe 140+.
if i could turn back time 120 - 140. dark lady 100 - 120. half breed 80 - 100. i got you babe 60 - 80
From what I have heard, Cher is privately quoted as saying that she cannot sing, finds her own music boring and is amazed that anybody listens to it.
Given the above, and her $30,000,000+ credit at the bank; surely she should be given the IQ prize.
HS
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-girl14.html.
i caught this on a link from a link from a link.
the group known as the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses disavowed corporal punishment as an acceptable way to discipline children, said j.r. brown, a national spokesman for the jehovah's witnesses.. "it has nothing to do with the religion,'' brown said.
NYT,
you have no information regarding my age..but if you look at past posts it is clear.
I am not sure of your point here NYT, as my summation of your age is as a result of reading some of your past posts.
As for 'typical sterotypes', please read your own post regarding fat people and low self-esteem.
I am not 'anti' everything, I just do not suffer fools gladly.....Mr Gladly.
HS
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-girl14.html.
i caught this on a link from a link from a link.
the group known as the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses disavowed corporal punishment as an acceptable way to discipline children, said j.r. brown, a national spokesman for the jehovah's witnesses.. "it has nothing to do with the religion,'' brown said.
NYT,
as you can see from the story ..these two were extremely fat..so we can conclude that the mentality they had is one of low self esteem and frustration. burn em fast and hard.
When you reach the age of sixteen, you may realise that life is not as simplistic as you suppose. On the other hand you may choose to carry on being yourself, after all somebody has to play the rear-end of the pantomime horse.
HS
Thank you Bill,
Touched in heart.
HS
hello, .
do any of you who keep up with a musical life know whether arthur lee ( love - 'forever changes' ) is out of gaol yet and if so where he was last spotted?.
a long shot but somebody may know - hs
Hello Notperfect,
Yes, Arthur and Maclean had some magic.
I lost track of Arthur a dozen years ago. We shared a little madness together in the early 70's. He always was a very highly strung person and walked around with his talent hanging out, but most songs I hear seem to have a little of himself lurking there.
Bacharach almost spontaneously exploded into flames when 'Little Red Book' was released. I am pleased he did not hear the take that they did later with Suranovitch drumming and thankfully never released, it was recorded when Lee was on a float, it would have bought on Armageddon.
HS
apologies for posting this message on this forum as well as the music forum but it is a little urgent.. do any of you who keep up with a musical life know whether arthur lee ( love - 'forever changes' ) is out of prison yet and if so where he was last spotted?.
a long shot but somebody may know.
please feel free to mail me - hs
Just in case you wonder. Arthur Lee - 'I Do Wonder' mp3 4K:
: http://members.home.net/squonka/leewonder.mp3
HS
