Posts by Aurelius

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New Peter Gregerson Story

by My Struggle in

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friends

well, it is a about a year old and many on here already know much of the story.

it is an good read with a few new tidbits.

here is the story..... http://www.arcapologetics.org/blog/ begin .post peter gregersons wise and painful departure from the watchtower .

Aurelius

Did Raymond Franz ever apologise specifically for being part of the GB that promulgated the 1975 Armageddon false prophecy?

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a "Blood" experience...

by AwSnap in

i was speaking with a lady today & found out she's been a nurse in the blood transfusion unit at our hospital for the past 15 years.

i said, "i have an off-the-wall question for you...i was having a discussion with somebody about jehovah's witnesses.

i know they're not allowed to get blood transfusions but they can get fractions, right?

Aurelius

And I'm angered that Witnesses are allowed to take the blood fractions that others have so kindly donated. Yet they refuse to donate blood.

Yep I raised a similar point with a Ministerial servant, his response was that the hospital would use all the primary 'banned' fractions for transfusion and not just the WTBS permitted fractions. OK, I suggested that if he were to accept a minor fraction wouldn't he rather it came from a JW than a 'Worldly' !!

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HOW DO JW'S CONSIDER THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS WHEN THEY DON'T ADHERE TO HIS TEACHINGS IN BIBLE?

by Divawriter in

how can jw's confess belief in jesus christ when they do not believe in his own words when he speaks of heaven???

jesus compared heaven in many parables, yet the jw's claim that the "new earth" is where they are going.

also, the belief that jesus was here in 1914(?

Aurelius

Christians follow their Lord Jesus Christ, NOT, the Governing Body !!!

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Wanted: JW apologist to explain how Michael is Jesus is Michael

by Mad Dawg in

everything jw's teach comes from the bible only.

where in the bible does it say that michael is jesus?.

Aurelius

Reniaa,

1 Thessalonians 4:16

For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of thearchangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

If with the voice of the archangel supports Jesus being Michael

then using the same logical construct, trumpet call of God supports Jesus being God

-A

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Must see video on Youtube where a JW is clearly defeated on the trinity subject...

by Tuesday in

personally i hate bible ping-pong.

i don't think it ever gets anywhere, i don't think it solves anything and i don't think the participants ever make any head room.

however i will say in this case, i have been proven wrong.

Aurelius

Vinny,

In terms of worshipping Jesus, perhaps the following scriptures might assist:

John 5:23 (NWT):

23 in order that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.

Philip 14:8 (NWT)

8 Philip said to him: “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.”

9 Jesus said to him: “Have I been with YOU men so long a time, and yet, Philip, you have not come to know me? He that has seen me has seen the Father [also]. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

I hope this helps.

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Can anyone explain...

by Lillith26 in

hi, can anyone please explain to me why?...

in the "blood dvd" the org says "that although we will not accept practises that go against our religion (blood transfusion), as jw's we do still wish to have the very best medical treatment avaliable to us.." but the majority of witlesses wont let themselves, their children or other members go to uni to become docters/surgions etc.

please explain????.

Aurelius

Please also explain why JWs CAN ACCEPT minor fractions from donated blood yet are NOT PERMITTED to donate their own blood for others to benefit from the minor fractions !!!

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Witnesses claim Ressurected folks have no genitals? This will start the 1,000 year rebellion!

by Witness 007 in

that really sucks!

not much of a "paradise" for me, being a eunich for all eternity!

they dont "marry" or do anything.

Aurelius

Luke 20:27-36.

It's a GREAT one for refuting the unbiblical Watchtower 144,000/other sheep doctrine.

First off, in questioning the Lord Jesus on the subject of the resurrection, the Sadducee's refer to people UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES, i.e. in the "Old" Covenant.

Hence,

"Teacher, MOSES wrote for us that..." (verse 28).

Of course - as you're well aware - the Watchtower teach that such people will be resurrected to a 1000-year "trial" (Judgement Day) on EARTH. They also teach that, through disobedience, such resurrectees can be punished WITH DEATH.

But look at the Lord Jesus' response to their example, He says that such,

"...CANNOT EVEN DIE ANYMORE, BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE ANGELS..." (verse 36, caps mine)

But surely - according to Watchtower teaching - the above statement ONLY applies to the 144,000?

See the contradiction?

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Did Jah make Crocodiles to eat grass....Lions eat oranges!

by Witness 007 in

what about misqetoes and vampire bats leeches, sucking blood from other animals?

i remember a watchtower saying how a lion could use his claws to "rip open husks" ........like when eating a pineapple!

do you have any examples, thoughts?.

Aurelius

Also the Cheetah needs the ability to run at 60 mph in order to catch the wind-swept blade of grass.

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Jehovah created Jesus? Jesus is "a god" and "mighty god"? Consider these...

by Chalam in

good to see all the thread on jesus recently :).

10 "you are my witnesses," declares the lord, .

"and my servant whom i have chosen, .

Aurelius

The next time a JW tries to use John 1:1 (NWT) to show that Jesus is just simply "a god" (small 'g'), refer them to Isaiah 9:6 and ask them to explain which one of the renderings is correct. If they claim both are correct. Ask them to explain how a "Mighty God" has now become "a god'. Sounds like a demotion to me!

For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God , Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:6)

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Marriage in the Resurrection

by Wicaugen in

i asked my jw friend (who is my best friend, and i hers, long story, don't ask how it's possible) a question about matthew 22:23. actually, i asked her the same question the sadducces asked jesus.. long story short, she couldn't really answer me, but asked a couple follow up questions.

so, i have a question for you guys, since she wasn't really sure.

does the watchtower still teach that people will be married after the resurrection if they are part of the great crowd?.

Aurelius

See the parallel text at Luke 20:27-36.

It's a GREAT one for refuting the unbiblical Watchtower 144,000/other sheep doctrine.
First off, in questioning Jesus on the subject of the resurrection, the Sadducee's refer to people UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES, i.e. in the "Old" Covenant.

Hence,

"Teacher, Moses wrote us..." (verse 28).

Of course - as you're well aware - the Watchtower teach that such people will be resurrected to a 1000-year "trial" (Judgment Day) on EARTH. They also teach that, through disobedience, such resurrectees can be punished WITH DEATH.

But look at Jesus' response to their example, He says that such,
"...NEITHER CAN THEY DIE ANYMORE, FOR THEY ARE LIKE ANGELS..." (verse 36, caps mine)

But surely - according to Watchtower teaching - the above statement ONLY applies to the 144,000?
See the contradiction?

Unlike the WT, of course, who claim that obedience to Jehovah during a 1000-year trial is additionally required to secure eternal life.