does anybody have a list of convention dates and a hi-res scan of a convention badge?.
i remember all of those talks about behaving at assemblies and all of those talks about setting a good example.. .
what if people were to go to an assembly, looking exactly like a jw, but behaving like a jw could never get away with?.
"We're Jehovah's Witnesses" and other Kingdom Melodies (or slightly modified funnier versions of them).
We make gods of pulp and print
But of truth we have no hint
Such is our Jehovah, demon god of old
Other gods are deaf and dumb
Ours is blind as well you see...
We're Jehovah's witlesses
We speak out in mindlesness
Ours is the god of false prophecy
What he foretells comes to naught!
..to death of jw junk....here is the summary of the 3 hour discussion we just had with a couple of long term jw's...past elders - still entrenched with absolute control.
a lot of things brought out and here is what they said:.
- the wts is far less rigid than it was ever before.
I could tolerate such bilge to a point if the JWs are younger than me and/or have been in the religion for 15 years or less but if they're long term Witnesses that where in the organization from the 1970's onward then I lose my patience and become very honest about what I think of them. I would recite a line from one of my poems and tell them "You're going to grow old and die following the Watchtower lie".
ok my roof is already white (white/green architectural shingles) i wondered if i put mirrors on the roof to reflect the light if it would cut down my electrical bills?
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i'm not really thinking about doing it just curious!.
Try some Reynolds Wrap.
i hate that..
Compared to Worldlings?
pi and the bible has been the subject of debate before.
however, i had not seen this information which clear up the 1 kings 7:23 issue before so i am posting here.
also, the two constants, pi and e encoded in the first verse of the ot and nt respectively, see second article.. full details in the url at the start of each topic.. the value of pi.
"I am happier with the belief of a Creator "just existing" rather than creation existing without a Creator."
Chalam, that is an egocentric point of view diametrically opposed to science-the means to acquire true knowledge. Neither Reality nor even a Deistic God give a darn for our happiness and the Cosmos will not bow down at our feet.
pi and the bible has been the subject of debate before.
however, i had not seen this information which clear up the 1 kings 7:23 issue before so i am posting here.
also, the two constants, pi and e encoded in the first verse of the ot and nt respectively, see second article.. full details in the url at the start of each topic.. the value of pi.
Chalam, Einstein was a Pantheist who personally stated that he did not believe in anthropomorphic gods, nor gods who interested themselves in human interests. He stated that his "god" was the god of Spinoza a well known pantheist.
i was reading on jwr a thread that linked to these funny indian music videos that weere "subtitled" in english (very funny if you have seen them...) and the thread author was like, "after armageddon if i get resurrected i'm totally going to direct indian music videos".
which is all sorta beside the point, but prompted me to think back and try to recall what exactly i planned to do in the new system.
you know- we all had those things we really wanted to do but were going to "wait until the new system to..." do whatever.. so: are you actually doing those things now, or were they totally unrealistic and fairytale type stuff like "riding a tiger up mt everest and snowboarding down"??
Get married and have sex. Isn't that sad?
most jws dread the thought of never being talked to again by a fellow "brother" or "sister".
the thought of being shunned by your flesh and blood keeps many witnesses in the religion.. is df'ing or dissasociation all that terrible?
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Not for me. It's not at all terrible. I took a stand for my integrity and will never regret it. I see how demoniacly awful they are and I'm glad to be out of it.
Of course, I had no family in the religion and only a couple of fairweather friends. Good riddance.
villabolo
i know i have been through all those stages, i denied it, then i got angry, definitely sad.
months and months of this, and i still am in for my family and friends.. but sometimes i just feel stupid.
why did i ignore basic common sense for so long?
I was fourteen and naive.
villabolo
since you have taken so much time in answering questions and commenting, i ask one more question:.
could you elaborate on who wrote certain books and brochures etc.?
i know you have written about articles you have contributed to, and also that coc lists the authors of some of the books, but do you remember at least some authors of some books / brochures / special articles?.
"And did they take much notice of Evangelical critics such as Walter Martin and Rob Bowman?"
I know they took notice of Edmund Gruss author of Apostles of Denial. He personally told me that a pair of Witnesses approached him at his home to inform him that he had been disfellowshipped. This happened decades after he converted to Christianity and years after he wrote his book Apostles of Denial.
