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  Marley Cole's "Jehovah's Witnesses - The New World Society"

  by witnessgirl in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well, i just finished reading marley cole's "jehovah's witnesses - the new world society" book from 1955. i'll provide a few quotes to introduce it in case you aren't familiar with the book.

  ray franz in crisis of conscience, p74, 2004 hc edition: cole wrote the book as if he were a non-witness writing an objective account.

  the idea was that by having the book published by an outside publishing firm it might reach persons who normally would not take society literature.

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  The real purpose of the HLC is to make sure JW's take blood...

  by besty in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  99% of jw's have no idea whats allowed and whats banned - too complex.. so most jw's tick the i accept nothing box.

  this from an hlc member i spoke with some time back.

  just to be on the 'safe' side, ironically.. anyway imagine the number of dead jw's there would be if this was allowed to run its course.. so imho part of the hlc raison d'etre is to make sure jw's take the blood fractions they are 'allowed'.. thoughts?.

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  What happens if your DF'ed at the Big A

  by sooner7nc in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the question is actually, what does the borg say or think as regards persons who have been df'ed who have shown repentance, but have not been reinstated at the time of the big a, or die in an accident, sudden illness, etc.

  while df'ed.

  do these persons get raised from the dead, or are they sol because of the vagaries of time and circumstance?

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  If You Were Ever An Elder...

  by Henry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what about the responsibility of being an elder did you dislike the most?

  i served from september 2003 - june 2006. there were two things that bugged me the most the first was i got sick of the bickering amongst the body.

  we had 7 elders and in nearly every situation, big or small, there was some division that got personal.

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  Why is the "Faithful and Discreet " parable literal when others are not?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the 10/1 1998 watchtower study article titled,''jehovah,a god merciful and gracious'' there is a footnote that reads:.

  parables and other illustrations related in the bible did not necessarily take place in actuality.futhermore,since the purpose of these stories is to teach a moral lesson,there is no need to seek a symbolic meaning in every detail.. matthew 24:45-47, in the new world translation, reads "who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

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  BoE "Porn" Letter... what if it isn't "convenient"?

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just reading the boe letter dated june 7, 2006 regarding pornography.

  here's an excerpt that made me go "hmmmmm".. next, the body of elders should determine whether the brother still qualifies to serve.

  he may continue to serve if his involvement consisted of (1) a few brief viewings, (2) he displays a heartfelt desire to desist from looking at pornography in any form, (3) the elders are convinced that he will refrain from viewing pornography, (4) he continues to retain the respect of others who are aware of what he did, and (5) his conscience allows him to do so.

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  List of family/friends lost to the Watchtower cult? (suicides)

  by hubert in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after reading about puternuts (ari) suicide, and also reading about sabine and js losing their daughter to this cult, i think it would be a fitting memorial, so to speak, to write a list of all the people we know who died because of this cult.

  i also know that cruzanheart lost her dad to it, too.

  i'm sure there are many here that can make a list of suicides brought on by the shunning/threatening policies of the watchtower cult.

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  If there's some good in the Watchtower, why leave it?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the post about crisis of conscience in which the poster said he knows there's some bad in the watchtower (as brought out in coc), but there's some good in it too got me to wondering about people that stay for the good in it.. the united states makes some decisions as a country that i don't agree with, perhaps even object strongly to.

  but i don't disavow my citizenship.

  it's mostly a good place to live, so i stay.. if you want to live in a way that utterly conflicts with the watchtower -- homosexual, multiple sex partners, smoking, whatever -- then you have reason to leave.

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  Christmas Lights...

  by Steve Egner in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  christmas lights remind me, that we're closing in on the second anniversary of our disassociation.. two years ago, around this time, "gifts in men" from our old congregation paid us a visit regarding our christmas display.

  we invited them in, ushering them slowly past our decorated tree, and seated them at our dining room table.

  they said that it had come to their attention that we appeared to be celbrating christmas..."indeed we are," i saiid, "as we have for the last four years.

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  My latest letter to the org and their reply

  by uncle_onion in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so we can see that the early jehovah witnesses believed that jesus parousia began in 1874. the truth book states this above and it is in all the old books.

  so we can see that the early jehovah witnesses believed that jesus parousia began in 1874. the truth book states this above and it is in all the old books.

  this statement is coming from the organization that offered the scholarship and keeps written records of such.

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