I think Angharad is lovely, too. Does that make Angharad - 3? Also I have to put in a vote for Leolaia. Mind you, Cadellin is pretty as well!!! :) (Especially when she's in her nightie, tee-hee!)
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Who Has the most beautiful Name on this board?
by hamsterbait ini have my own preference, but dont want to influence the vote.. as you register your vote please add 1 to the running total.. hamsterbait -1. shall we close the vote next week?.
any betters here?.
hb.
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Attended DC this weekend, quick recap...the End may not be imminent could take a million years but its still coming
by shopaholic inattended the dc this weekend in california with a jw acquaintance of mine that wanted to go 'jw man-hunting' and didn't want to go alone.
she knows i'm not active and haven't been to a meeting in a long time and have no interest in jw men.
i think she feels like she has the best of both worlds with me, anyway it was interesting...the gb appears to be changing their tune and i don't think the masses even realize it.. br.
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Shop, very interesting! You are indeed a good and loyal friend. Tell me, did Br. Splane use the word "imminent" at all? Did any of the other speakers? As has been noted on other threads about the DC, the word "imminent" seems to be the key word at many of the conventions--it sure as hell was at the one I attended. But then, we didn't have the emminent privilege of hosting a GB--who, of course, has the inside scoop on what's really going on!
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Yay for Womanhood! Female Min.Serv's under consideration.
by cattails inthe "priscilla" deliberations.. gb subcommittees now re-considering role of women in the organization.. example of phoebe as "diakonos" revisited.. could women be appointed to ministerial servant positions in view of the need in congregations?.
what's your take on latest rumors?
http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14821.
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And if the only way to come to the "truth" is to be drawn by God, why isn't he drawing more men, hmmm?
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Yay for Womanhood! Female Min.Serv's under consideration.
by cattails inthe "priscilla" deliberations.. gb subcommittees now re-considering role of women in the organization.. example of phoebe as "diakonos" revisited.. could women be appointed to ministerial servant positions in view of the need in congregations?.
what's your take on latest rumors?
http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14821.
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Cadellin
I'll believe it when I see it. Women are still not allowed to sit at either end of the table in Bethel dining rooms. Why? They might get thinking they're the table "head," a position only for males, even if its a 19 year old eating his first meal there. Crazy, what?
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What's with all the 'Imminent' nonsense?
by AK - Jeff incould it be that the proximity of 2014 is at the heart of it?.
i have no contact with jw's - except on this board - but my wife does at times with her family.
imminent is the cry of the sky for the jw's it seems.. i recall the years leading up to 1975 with a lot of that sort of thing.
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No, no, no, you guys got it all wrong!
They weren't saying "Armaggedon is IMMINENT" at the DC, they were saying that it's IMMANENT! You see, "immanent" (Etymology: Late Latin immanent-, immanens, present participle of immanere to remain in place, from Latin in- + manere to remain) means it's inherent, it's a permanent fixture of the whole Witness theology. They were finally admitting that the general Armaggedon concept is here to stay--it's what makes Witnesses what they are.
New light can come and go but Armaggedon's nearness remains forever, see? It's not the Society's fault that the two words sound the same...
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So long and thanks for all the fish.
by reniaa inhere is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.
posting a message for everyone or just some..
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Reniaa: I will miss you. While I didn't agree with some of your statements, I value and respect your right to make them, here or anywhere. Go in peace and, please, drop back when you feel like it.
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Do JW's believe that Moses wrote the 1st five books?
by homeschool inwell, i'm a few chapters into who wrote the bible, by richard elliot friedman (thanks, primate, for the suggestion!
)...there's no way i could explain the book to you, but i can see exactly what it's saying.
the author really puts it in layman's terms to show how many people/men wrote the bible.
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As a follow-up, try Friedman's The Bible with Sources Revealed, where he uses different fonts for different sources within his own translation. It's very illuminating when you can literally see the variances. I highly recommend it.
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What will the JW religion be like in 2015?
by JimmyPage inover 100 years into the reign of christ and six more years of damage from the internet.
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what do you envision?.
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My money's on donuthole's analysis...Donuthole, do you have an inside track?
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New here
by Heartbreaker ini have no idea what i want to convey in words here on this site, and have surprised myself by even joining at all.
i intended just to read, and get a few pieces of information, and now am a member, and spend many hours looking through posts old and new alike.
i am a current jw, born into it, and lets just say i'm in my thirties, female, and a mom of more than your average kids.
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Heartbreaker: Welcome to reality. You are not alone, nor are you crazy. In fact, you are probably more right than you know. But it's super scary when everyone in your fam is super theocratic. I'm in the same boat, and you'll find lots of others here who can share your whole range of feelings and experiences in one way or another.
I find that question, "Well, who are his real people then?" kind of odd, because it implies that if you eliminate every other religion, JWs win by default. But a default win is no win at all and it certainly isn't how an almighty God would go about his business, IMHO. And once you scratch the surface of the WT organization, there are many many discomfiting things to discover. Besides, who's to say that God has to have "one people"? This is a JW perspective firmly based on organizationally bureaucratic underpinnings.
You sound like you are in incredible pain. Have you considered finding a (good) therapist? Chemical/alcoholic painblotting is only going to do you harm, as you are probably aware, and professional counselling may be a good first step to dealing with what you are going through right now, as well as a help toward controlling what sounds like a damaging habit. You have kids, yes? They need you, the real you... And, being here is going to help. This is a good community. Welcome.
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Interestingly, the problems the world faces today are absolutely nothing like what the Bible supposedly predicts for the last days. The biggest problems have to do with looming water shortages, rising population, climate change and loss of biodiversity (all extremely serious, by the way). So for Witnesses to use any of those problems as evidence of the last days is dishonest, since the Bible is silent on those things. (Side: Rev. 11:18 which speaks of bringing to ruin those ruining the earth does NOT mean environmentally but ruining the earth with violence, as in Noah's day, which is what the marginal reference points to. Current Witness useage is eisegesis, plain and simple, and thank you again to Leolaia for a great word that sums up Witness biblical interpretation).
The old problems of apocalyptic scripture are famines, war and pestilence. With respect to famine, consider that the U.N. reports that there are more people obese (1,000,000,000+) right now than malnourished (800,000,000). With respect to war, we live in a time of unprecedented peace, relatively speaking. And the diseases that cut down populations a few hundred years ago are all but silenced today. Sure, swine flu approaches but there'll be a hundred million or more doses of vaccine available in a month or two, and more following. Can you imagine that happening at the first appearance of the Justinian plague? Further, it's also inaccurate to point to heart disease and cancer as a fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy regarding pestilences,since they do not fit the original Greek word used to describe communicable diseases (b/c they're not)
Last summer, I read Fareed Zakaria's The Post American World, about how the world is actually a much more prosperous place than even a generation ago. In fact, it is the rising prosperity of countries like India and China, where people are eating better, living longer and healthier than ever before, that are causing many of the looming problems like carbon emissions and empty aquifers and ocean degradation.