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  Latest SAD--More Higher Ed Bashing. Did you know it's one of Satan's False Refuges?

  by Cadellin in

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  well, folks, this little mermaid just got back from the sad she had to attend w/her husband so as to keep a measure of peace (we're in the process of working out compromises...you know how it goes) i was pretty mad by the end of the day (thank god it ended at 4:00) mostly because i learned some new things that i would never have guessed in a million years.. did you know that satan is setting up artificial "refuges" as a counterfeit to jehovah's "true refuge"which is...his organization???

  now satan's "false refuges" are pretty damn bad, like, for instance, "independent thinking.

  " no, siree bob, we don't want none of that!!

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  Just wanted to add--I'm in the midst of applying to Ph.D. programs.

  Tee-hee...
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  Latest SAD--More Higher Ed Bashing. Did you know it's one of Satan's False Refuges?

  by Cadellin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, folks, this little mermaid just got back from the sad she had to attend w/her husband so as to keep a measure of peace (we're in the process of working out compromises...you know how it goes) i was pretty mad by the end of the day (thank god it ended at 4:00) mostly because i learned some new things that i would never have guessed in a million years.. did you know that satan is setting up artificial "refuges" as a counterfeit to jehovah's "true refuge"which is...his organization???

  now satan's "false refuges" are pretty damn bad, like, for instance, "independent thinking.

  " no, siree bob, we don't want none of that!!

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  Well, folks, this little mermaid just got back from the SAD she had to attend w/her husband so as to keep a measure of peace (we're in the process of working out compromises...you know how it goes) I was pretty mad by the end of the day (thank god it ended at 4:00) mostly because I learned some NEW THINGS that I would never have guessed in a million years.

  Did you know that Satan is setting up artificial "refuges" as a counterfeit to Jehovah's "true refuge"which is...HIS ORGANIZATION??? Now Satan's "false refuges" are pretty damn bad, like, for instance, "Independent Thinking." No, siree bob, we don't want none of that!! Oh, and also "Higher Education." Now that one really caught the mermaid's tail. Did you know, good people, that if you have a University DEGREE, you are damn lucky to even have a job??? That those worldlings that espouse the benefit of getting a degree don't tell you, but that in this economic downturn, "in one country" (this is an exact quote), over 750,000 jobs that don't require a degree are being done by people with degrees??? The whole implication was that if you have a Bachelor's Degree, you are in WORSE SHAPE financially and job-wise than those smarties who opted out of the whole silly education thing.

  When the Bethel speaker was spouting this nonesense in his deep, fatherly tones, I looked around the audience thinking to myself C'mon, this is absolute moronic nonsense. Surely I'm not the only one seeing it for what it is... And folks were just nodding and taking notes like crazy.

  When I got home, I immediately jumped on my computer and did a little research--turns out there's a whole shitload of recent research showing that the employment gap b/t those with college and those without is WIDENING in this economic downturn--that if you don't have a degree, the chances of you being unemployed in the US is around 2.6 times GREATER than if you had one. And as for that silly little anecdote about "one country where 750,000 jobs are being done by people w/degrees" I felt like standing up and saying, "Um, so what kinds of jobs are the people w/o degrees doing??? I mean, if the jobs that DON'T need degrees are being done w/people who are admittedly overqualified, then what's everybody else doing? Oh, right, they're not doing ANY KIND OF JOB. They're UNEMPLOYED!!

  Sorry for the rant. The stupidity got to me....Thanks for listening.
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  More KS-10 'Shepherding' instruction LTR

  by yknot in

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  while i at this moment don't have my hands on a scan and very dear 'anonymouse brother' wishes for the forum to know as a 'heads up'!.

  here is the 'gist' of the ltr until we get an actual scan ..... apparently some elders want to have their books spiral bound.

  the branch has sent out specific instructions that it can be done only by an elder for other elders.

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  However "outside companies, unbelivers, and sisters are not permitted to perform this work".

  If this is true, then, speaking as a mermaid, it's been a long time since I've seen anything so blatantly offensive. Are they for friggin' real??? This is over the top paranoia, even for the WTS. If any sister has any doubt about how the WTS views her gender, then this, coupled with the latest "Couples Only" school, should be a clincher. Women, what are they good for? Preachin' door to door, cookin', cleanin' and layin'...

  Yknot, I'm not doubting you and I appreciate you posting this, but I would really like to see a scan...
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  Next WATCHTOWER cover with serious question ...

  by sacolton in

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  ROFLMAO!! Sacolton, you are hilarious!!
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  Odd Deconstructive Moment in the Dec 2010 Awake

  by Cadellin in

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  when i saw the article, "more major earthquakes expected" in page 20, my first thought was wtf?

  haven't they learned their lesson about predicting increases in earthquakes?

  then i read the article, which shies away from any explicit claim that seismic activity is on the increase.

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  When I saw the article, "More Major Earthquakes Expected" in page 20, my first thought was WTF? Haven't they learned their lesson about predicting increases in earthquakes? Then I read the article, which shies away from any explicit claim that seismic activity is on the increase. The weirdness lies in the syntax of the title with its use of the word "more" which can mean either (1) More, as in an increase, will occur or (2) Because there have been earthquakes in the past, it is reasonable to assume they will happen in the future, w/o any increase. See what I mean?

  The doublespeak continues in the sidebox entitled, "More Expected" under which the US Geological Survey is quoted as saying, "Large earthquakes will continue to occur just as they have in the past." (my emphasis). Then, one more twist, the box concludes with "Serious Bible students cannot help but think of the Bible prophecies that specifically mention earthquakes as part of the composite sign of the last days..." Yeah, but didn't the previous quote just say there's no change?? Yeah, but don't both titles say that there'll be MORE TO COME????

  My brain hurts.
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  Sam Harris' New Book: "The Moral Landscape"

  by leavingwt in

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  sam harris' new book has been released.

  i really enjoyed his first book, 'the end of faith'.

  harris: morality must relate, at some level, to the well-being of conscious creatures.

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  Looks like a terrific read--thanks for posting this!
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  Highlights of Annual Meeting 2010

  by elderelite in

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  for those who are interested, the following changes were announced yesterday at the agm.

  1) mts school has been done away with.

  a) in its place two new schools have been formed.

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  In its place two new schools have been formed. One is for Single brothers. The other is for married couples. Further details will be forthcomming

  Nice. One more way to remind women that their value lies in their marital status. I wonder if there were any suggestions regarding bringing a new dress code for sisters--I hear the burqua is popular with a few other religious groups who share this mentality...
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  What do you think will be WT doctrine in 10 or 20 years time?

  by roguepixel in

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  the world/science/technology and society (not the society) are changing so rapidly.

  what does everybody think will be wt$ doctrine and belief in 10 or 20 years time?

  i'm thinking mainly about advances in medicine and cloning, which were always looked upon as being a cut-off point.

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  wow, what a great thread and responses. I have to pitch in, too.

  I think the subtle social schisms already brewing under the surface will grow, that is, there will be a definite sector of JWs, mostly in NA, Europe and other developed secular lands, that will simply be going along b/c of family and social ties, who will either recgonize the BS and not take it seriously or who will consciously refuse to examine it critically so they can maintain the status quo. This group, which will increase, will have the effect of neutralizing the evangelizing spirit, softening the rhetoric and generally moving toward a good works/charity/family-based theology as opposed to rampant end-times. The GB will be forced to respond with a "kinder, gentler" face or lose a heavy swathe of publishers (who might only be getting in 3 or 4 hours and that maybe in the form of visiting the elderly in nursing homes, etc.) Pioneer hours will be reduced to 50/mos., softening on the higher education stance, etc. AT the same time, in third world countries and amongst immigrant groups, there will continue to be high growth and an emphasis on end-times ideology. I think in 20 years time, English speaking JWs will be a significant minority--yet still the source of most donations, hence the need to soften the hard core dogma, as I mentioned.

  I have family members who recently came back from a trip to Patterson NY and were bubbling over with all the good experiences JWs were having in the territory around there, how the angels were directing the work, how the spirit is so dynamic and exciting with all kinds of growth happening.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Changing Chronology

  by blondie in

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  http://www.energypublisher.com/article.asp?id=40147.

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  Although the Watch Tower organisation is regarded as God’s exclusive, true and faithful organisation on earth, it is nonetheless governed by fallible people, who do not claim special supernatural revelations, but seek to understand God’s word, as it is found in the Bible.

  I thought he was fairly credible until his "Conclusion," where, among other things, he says the above. Perhaps someone should send him the July 15, 2010 "insider edition" of the WT, where it says, on p. 23: "When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps responsible representatives of the "faithful and discreet slave" at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood."

  I wonder if George could explain the different b/w "not claiming special supernatural revelations" and the WT quote?
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  Help me...

  by rafreuter in

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  i wish this weren't the way i greeted the board.

  i've been lurking here for about 2 years now, but was unable to really interact because of limitations of my ipod browser (you can't post from there) and the parental controls on my computer.. .

  well 2 years later, i'm a big boy, turned 18 and moved out.

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  Welcome, cherrypye! (Ok, I know that's supposed to be a pizza but I think it looks like a delectable one-crust cherry pie!)

  We'd love to hear your story, if/when you want to share.