Posts on this site are the first I've ever heard of "invitation only" meetings. I'm a born-in, and never ever heard of this until recently. I guess it's just something else to get the R&F all worked up. In my opinion, it serves to put further divisions in the conregations/organization. Brother Pompous and Sister Snooty were invited because they've had _____ years of full-time service... But YOU, Sister Single Mom Who Can't Pioneer... NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!
Morbidzbaby
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Special Meeting for Certain Congregations Only ??
by Poztate inanybody have any information on what that's all about (b.c) ?
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Super Secret Pro JW Forum Website!
by Iamallcool inhttp://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=421&mforum=jw.
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Morbidzbaby
bio~ It also seems as if a lot of the "answers" are just cut and paste or they are links to other threads that addressed the question.
A part of me thinks that some of these "interested ones" are actually aliases the admin creates in order to have a dialogue and make it SEEM as if the questions are being answered to satisfaction. A lot of points we've made here in different topics have been raised as "conversation stoppers" and the admin seems to be able to skirt around them easily... I dunno, maybe that's just a bit of paranoia and conspiracy theory on my part... But really, how many people even think to ask these questions about JW's? How many actually are aware of ANY of their beliefs? The number of those who really give a shite about JW's are about the equivalent of a drop in the world bucket.
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Super Secret Pro JW Forum Website!
by Iamallcool inhttp://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=421&mforum=jw.
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Morbidzbaby
Oh, but wait a second, y'all!! We got us a spot on the Saturday afternoon symposium JUST FOR US!! Ememies of the Kingdom: Apostates!!
Guess we can expect that those of us who are SUSPECTED will be thoroughly shunned after this one...
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V for Vendetta - another great movie for faders and ex-JWs
by RayPublisher injust re-watched it again recently...wow what a powerful film and really shows up totalitarianism, mind control, etc.
of course the great wachowski's (of matrix fame) made it, so what do you expect?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4ceey.
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Morbidzbaby
Funny you should mention this movie... BF and I just watched it together for the first time on Wednesday! I loved it! He loved it as well... I think it really struck a chord with me simply BECAUSE of the whole mind control undercurrent how powerful organizations are when we ALLOW them to be. That was what I really saw...the people were duped, yes...but they had ALLOWED this control the entire time because they were told it was for their own good/safety. When one wakes up from something like the JW's and still allows them to control them ("Where will we go?"), they endorse the behavior of the organization and still continue to give them that power over them and others.
Those who wake up and leave take that power away from them...and give it back to themselves.
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Indoctrinating the Grandchildren, Knowing the Parents Object.
by OnTheWayOut inin january, i posted this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/220914/1/leaving-jw-tracts-at-the-funeral-visitation.
this is a continuation of the thread.
here's the opening post of that thread, so you don't have to relive the whole thing:.
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Morbidzbaby
Yeah, OTWO, it's pretty sick that contradicting a child's parents is seen as okay and even admirable when it's done "for Jehovah".
However, let's say that Sally's daughter-in-law had parents who were Mormon. Now, Sally's son allows his children to visit them as well and lo and behold, they try to talk to the children about the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith. How would Sally feel about that? How would your wife feel about that? Guaranteed, it would be "different because they're not teaching those kids the Truth!". Yet, the behavior, the contradicting of the parents is still the same. So what gives the JW the right to do it, and not the LDS?
A step further...let's say that Sally's son was visiting non-JW grandparents who decided to tell him that indeed, people go to heaven and Jesus died on a cross... Would not Sally be ultra-pissed that her child was being taught something CONTRARY to what she was teaching him?
Your wife needs to understand that it's not the CONTENT of what is being said, it's the CONTRADICTION of the parents and telling the children that the people they look up to most in this world are lying to them. In my mind, they're no better than Satan telling Eve that god (her father) was keeping something from her and lying to her and that no she would NOT die if she ate the fruit. It's telling the child something completely different and usurping the parents' right to raise their children how they see fit.
Wow...that was a rant, now wasn't it? LOL
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I went to a 50th Birthday Party yesterday and...
by Broken Promises in...no heads were beheaded!.
no one got drunk (it was held in a public park where it's illegal to drink anyhow).
no one took drugs.
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Morbidzbaby
Good for you!! I did an entire birthday weekend for my BF, baked his cake, etc. Still haven't been to an actual PARTY, but really looking forward to it!! I plan on getting a cake for each of my JW-raised children and celebrating their birthdays without them complete with photos...this way when they're older, they will see their birthdays WERE celebrated and they even had cake!!
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Indoctrinating the Grandchildren, Knowing the Parents Object.
by OnTheWayOut inin january, i posted this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/220914/1/leaving-jw-tracts-at-the-funeral-visitation.
this is a continuation of the thread.
here's the opening post of that thread, so you don't have to relive the whole thing:.
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Morbidzbaby
I had a conversation with BF a few days ago about this very subject. My parents live far away, and while I promised them I wouldn't keep my children from them, BF has rules (as do I) about what they are allowed to speak to them about. At the first mention of "Jehovah", I will forcefully tell them that religion is off-limits. Our child is not being raised in a religious household, not being taught that there IS a god, but that other people believe in the concept. Our child will be taught to make their own mind up based on solid evidence and critical thinking, not because "Mom and Dad say this is how it is" or because some collection of writings from ancient worshippers of a volcano god say that this is how it is.
I know they will not like this and I know that they would try to use every opportunity to preach when BF and I are not around...which is why all phone calls will be on speakerphone, and all visits will be supervised with the entire family present, not just my child and them. The other reason for this is that my mother doesn't respect boundaries when it comes to discipline, either. My brother would leave my neice with my mother, allowed her to take the kid to meetings, etc. He and his wife stipulated that if she misbehaved, she could be put in time out, put in the corner, or made to sit down until her parents came. He made it known that she was NOT to be spanked. My mother did not respect that boundary and said after he left "When she's in my home and I'm taking care of her, I'll discipline her MY way". The kid got spanked when she stepped out of line. And I know how my mother is...the reason he didn't want her spanking is because my mother doesn't know when to stop. Since I witnessed this with regard to my neice, I KNOW she would have no respect for my rules either.
My parents aren't allowed to speak to my other children because my ex is angry with them for giving me photos of my kids. They are ALL JW's and he treats his "brother and sister" this way...My dad is a MS, my mom a pioneer...both in excellent standing. So while I know that they would try to preach to my kids, I can't in good conscience keep my kids away from them and hurt them further. I can make rules which they can choose to abide by, or I can be strict and make SURE they abide by them. But trust me, if my mom was like Sally with my kid, I would put the kabosh on that REAL quick.
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Why do JW's hate EX-JW'S more than WORLDLIES?
by african GB Member indo they feel intimidated by the fact that ex-jw's know all about the way they function as an organization?
(well except what happens at the "back room" and at gb decision making meetings)..... is it because they can still "catch" worldlies?.
...or is it because ex-jw's could poison those still in "the truth"?.
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Morbidzbaby
So, Yons, you dug up this thread from 3 years ago just to post that? Maybe you should have done some browsing first before you decided to join. Anyway, welcome to the board, stick around...You might learn something here. I know I sure did.
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this was kind of sad
by stillin ina newly interested study gave his first bible reading on the school the other night.
i used to be filled with emotion and hope for ones like him: found "in the field," given real hope, the discipline of "the truth" at work in their hearts.
this guy is a good guy and i have no plans for raining on his parade, but i sat there while he did an excellent job with the reading.
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Morbidzbaby
Very good idea, Tammy. stillin, try to reach this guy any way you (safely) can before it's too late for him. At least if you give him the MEANS to look for himself you know you did what you could given the situation.
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Are You A Screwed Up Adult Because You Were A Witness?
by minimus inor did it not matter that you were ever a witness---you're a bit screwy, anyway?.
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Morbidzbaby
I struggle with certain things... I can't name them off the top of my head, but when the issues come up, I automatically KNOW that it's because of my upbringing in the cult. This makes it much easier to get past those things, however. I think for the most part I'm doing alright. Like BOC, the only real problem is that I have family still in who believe this tripe!