I think he was doing the same thing all of us do; Jack off, chase girls and play Call of Duty.
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Jesus between age 12 and 30. . .
by Mad Sweeney ini'm thinking he traveled east and learned the wisdom of the orient.
no way the watchtower line about him being a carpenter's assistant all that time is possibly true.
he was way too learned about the ways of people to not have been educated and his ideas seem very eastern to me.. anyone got any good books, articles, blogs, websites on the topic?.
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The God Delusion - online documentary films - Parts 1 & 2
by Nickolas inwhile searching for online documentaries about jehovah's witnesses (in particular "children of jehovah" by the cbc and "silent lambs" by the fifth estate - neither of which i found) i came across this one, featuring richard dawkins.
free to watch online.
48 mins.
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superpunk
As has been shown over and over, science and religion are not in conflict.
lulz.
"Of course the theologians fought the facts found by the geologists, the scientists, and sought to sustain the sacred Scriptures. They mistook the bones of the mastodon for those of human beings, and by them proudly proved that "there were giants in those days." They accounted for the fossils by saying that God had made them to try our faith, or that the Devil had imitated the works of the Creator.
They answered the geologists by saying that the "days" in Genesis were long periods of time, and that after all the flood might have been local. They told the astronomers that the sun and moon were not actually, but only apparently, stopped. And that the appearance was produced by the reflection and refraction of light.
They excused the slavery and polygamy, the robbery and murder upheld in the Old Testament by saying that the people were so degraded that Jehovah was compelled to pander to their ignorance and prejudice.
In every way the clergy sought to evade the facts, to dodge the truth, to preserve the creed.
At first they flatly denied the facts -- then they belittled them -- then they harmonized them -- then they denied that they had denied them. Then they changed the meaning of the "inspired" book to fit the facts.
At first they said that if the facts, as claimed, were true, the Bible was false and Christianity itself a superstition. Afterward they said the facts, as claimed, were true and that they established beyond all doubt the inspiration of the Bible and the divine origin of orthodox religion.
Anything they could not dodge, they swallowed, and anything they could not swallow, they dodged."
Ingersoll;
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When You Look Back, Can You Believe That You Actually . . .
by PublishingCult in.
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believed you were going to live forever in paradise on earth?.
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Can't believe it, am embarassed that I ever did.
I think that embarassment is good, though, as it keeps us from making fools of ourselves again by falling for someone else's far-fetched and unverifiable promises.
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Another Armageddon Thread...This Time May be for REAL?!?
by Yan Bibiyan inwith the ensuing unrest in north africa and the middle east, i wonder if some "zealous" brothers and sisters are saying: "this is it!!!"..
didn't armageddon suppose to start in the mideast?
isn't the unrest moving closer and closer to israel?
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Ant farts in Boise are a sign of the times.
Armageddon is fictional.
Exactly. Jesus, people. Free your minds.
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What is it with all the men waking up but the wives stay in? Why is it the opposite for me?
by Cadellin inthis is something i've thought about for a while now.
it seems like the same story on this board over and over--the husband, who also might be an elder, ms, etc.--starts having doubts and researching, aka miseryloveselders and franklin massey and others.
he starts to smell the coffee and realizes that this organization isn't what it claims to be.
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Men are just better at everything.
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How and when was the New Testament Compiled?
by ProdigalSon inearly christian writings.. .
let alone "inspired by god?
church councils) this is what i mean by spiritual osmosis.. there are other early lists of new testament books that.
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I most say, this issue, the compilation of the NT was what got the ball rolling from me. Once I realized there was nothing divine about the flavor of Christ we ended up with. Once I realized we could have had a way different story of the Jesus of Nazareth thanks to arbitrary desicions for political reasons, my faith went down hill, the real research started and "ignorance" lost.
inb4 "you should have prayed and personally trusted Jesus instead of a book about Jesus."
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I just want a "normal" family
by Hangin_on ini have a mother in law that doesn't like me because i'm not an elder and i don't study enough.... i think worldly people have bigger problems in their marriage!
did you ever just want a "normal" family?
i don't have to celebrate christmas, but i just want people that care about and accept me for who i am!
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You'll have to pick and choose it. That's what we've had to do since leaving. Leave the poisonous witness family behind and pick and choose an assortment of non-JW friends and family who just want to love you, like you and get to know you because that's what people do, not because they believe you're all going to live forever together.
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How and when was the New Testament Compiled?
by ProdigalSon inearly christian writings.. .
let alone "inspired by god?
church councils) this is what i mean by spiritual osmosis.. there are other early lists of new testament books that.
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@ Larsinger
wtf?????
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What is it with all the men waking up but the wives stay in? Why is it the opposite for me?
by Cadellin inthis is something i've thought about for a while now.
it seems like the same story on this board over and over--the husband, who also might be an elder, ms, etc.--starts having doubts and researching, aka miseryloveselders and franklin massey and others.
he starts to smell the coffee and realizes that this organization isn't what it claims to be.
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Women cling to religion more than men across the board.
http://www.livescience.com/7689-women-religious-men.html
Among the reasons women tend to be more religious, he says:
- Mothers have tended to spend more time raising children, which often means overseeing their involvement in church activities.
- Though two-income households are more common today, in the past women often had more flexible daily schedules, permitting more church involvement during the week.
- Women tend to be more open about sharing personal problems and are more relational than men. Other Gallup research shows a higher proportion of women than men say they have a "best friend" in their congregation, he wrote.
Lastly, Gallup argued, "More so than men, women lean toward an empirical [depending on experience or observation] rather than a rational basis for faith."
There may be another reason. Rodney Stark, a professor of sociology and comparative religion at the University of Washington, flips the question around: Why are men less religious?
"Studies of biochemistry imply that both male irreligiousness and male lawlessness are rooted in the fact that far more males than females have an underdeveloped ability to inhibit their impulses, especially those involving immediate gratification and thrills," Stark argued in a 2002 paper in the Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion.
The upshot is that some men are shortsighted and don't think ahead, Stark said, and so "going to prison or going to hell just doesn't matter to these men.
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How the hell was True Grit rated PG-13?
by sabastious inthe movie opens up with three men being hung and the camera angle leaves nothing to be desired.
then it's pretty much nothing but crazy fun violence from start to end; some of it was pretty grizzly.. don't get me wrong, flipping hell of a movie... but it's weird that it somehow got a pg-13 rating.. -sab.
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I dunno. I just know it was AWESOME.