My first congregation i attended in souther California, we had 3 sisters who were fully capable of working, on welfare and all three were pioneering. they made no qualms about it, California had a too liberal policy for welfare. They were forever trying to invite themselves over to our house, and pestered my wife about inviting them over for a good meal which she did on a number of occasions. Their last meal at our house they mentioned they were on welfare and it was a great way to get support and at the same time to pioneer. I told the wife afterwards never again are they to come to our house. They are abusing the system and the CA welfare agency didn't seem to give a damn when it was reported to them by another brother and his wife in the cong. so yeah some definitely abuse the opportunity to sit on their ass instead of working to support themselves, and expect the state (the tax payers) to support them while they are out wasting time knocking on not at homes.
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People who pioneer on government assistance
by ilikecheese ini had a chat with my boyfriend about this, and he said that he knows quite a few pioneers who are capable of working but prefer to pioneer with government assistance.
his thought was, "well, it's kind of bad, but at least they're doing something useful/good with their time.
" i know from reading this board that it's a pretty widespread thing.
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Elder left a calling card - what's with that?
by Julia Orwell inhe called me a week or two ago offering 'assistance' and told me he'd pop by some time with 'a packet of biscuits' and i told him to ring before he came so as not to show up unannounced.
we went out yesterday, and this morning i find a little business card-sized calling card obviously printed up on ms word and cut with scissors.
on it is printed, "sorry i missed you," and has his name and number, and the scripture from romans saying something about an interchange of encouragement.. pretty inoccuous right?
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ssn587
Many times they wont take a no in however way it is presented to them, they think they have the right to come and go as "they" wish. Ignore them and if they show up unannounced, tell them you are too busy, and that you have told them in the past to call before coming over to see if it is a good time, and that if you need encouragement from them you will be sure and call them post haste. Probably won't do any good, and maybe you will need a desist order against them to keep them away, believe me that will get their attention.
I found that my 1st wife's passing away was all that I needed to keep them away, I only had one real conversation with an elder afterwards and that was at a Mickey D's. We had coffee and a mostly congenial conversation. He wanted to know why I wasn't coming to the meetings, and I told him why, their complete lack of real love, the abandonment of my family after wife passed away. Another thing I brought up is that i don't know if we have any neverdowells in the congregation such as peds. I then asked him quite frankly how it was that he thought holy spirit could have a ped appointed as an elder and cited the example of a ped from our last congreagation in another state. He stated that the holy spirit did appoint him just as it appointed all elders. So then told him "well you want to know why I won't come back, well thats one of the major reasons is your delusion about holy spirit appointing you and others, and to say that holy spirit appoints peds is living in la la land. We ended our conversation right then and there I just got up walked out and told him have a good life with your self deslusion. Oh I also re-mentioned (word?) that they showed no real love after our family tragedy, and that their love is very conditional and not real love at all.
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marrying younger spouses
by ssn587 inmy wife passed away 2 years ago we had been married over 30 years, i have since remarried and my new wife is younger than 3 of my children from my first marriage.
i just wondering if there are any more like me out there.
i stay in excellent shape for my age, work out almost daily eat good and have absolutely no medical problems or at least none i can do anything about, bad knees, but my vitals are excellent, and i am known as the teenage because of them when i have my yearly medical checkup.. so was wondering if there are others out there like me, and what some may think about it, just for the record i am extremely happy once again, and we have a 18 month boy who delights me, have a whole new outlook on fatherhood and child raising.
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Thank you Julia. Yes age is just a number, too many people let getting older affect their activities, I go to the gym almost daily, and if not there workout out with the weights here at home, and i mean the iron weights not machines.
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marrying younger spouses
by ssn587 inmy wife passed away 2 years ago we had been married over 30 years, i have since remarried and my new wife is younger than 3 of my children from my first marriage.
i just wondering if there are any more like me out there.
i stay in excellent shape for my age, work out almost daily eat good and have absolutely no medical problems or at least none i can do anything about, bad knees, but my vitals are excellent, and i am known as the teenage because of them when i have my yearly medical checkup.. so was wondering if there are others out there like me, and what some may think about it, just for the record i am extremely happy once again, and we have a 18 month boy who delights me, have a whole new outlook on fatherhood and child raising.
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My wife passed away 2 years ago we had been married over 30 years, I have since remarried and my new wife is younger than 3 of my children from my first marriage. I just wondering if there are any more like me out there. I stay in excellent shape for my age, work out almost daily eat good and have absolutely no medical problems or at least none I can do anything about, bad knees, but my vitals are excellent, and I am known as the teenage because of them when i have my yearly medical checkup.
So was wondering if there are others out there like me, and what some may think about it, Just for the record i am extremely happy once again, and we have a 18 month boy who delights me, have a whole new outlook on fatherhood and child raising. It's great. Our boy isn't from our marriage but she had been pregnant when I met her. Her former fiance up and left when he found out she was pregnant. She is very very good to me and takes exceptional care of me. She likes most all of the things I like to do, and she is very frugal at the same time. I am over 30 years older than her and she thinks I workout too much, weights, cardio, and working on the farm. I seem to have more energy than most way younger than me and am grateful for that. My family other than my mother live to ripe old ages, father 99 when he passed away, his sisters 100+. So come from a long lived family. Father died of a heart attack while taking stumps out of the ground which says something for a 99 year old.
She thinks the witnesses are crazy to believe and act the way they do. Where we live we never see any jdubs, and i mean never. Her uncle lives very close to us he is 85 spry and works his farm daily. He told me he hasn't seen a jdub out in their area ever.
Any thoughts on marrying someone way younger than you?
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What is your experience when you stop turning in time?
by gingerbread infor the past year or so, i've been turning in just one or two hours of service time.
it has been mentioned to me from an elder "friend" that i'm never seen at any meetings for field service.
i get his implication.
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ssn587
for over a year i didn't turn in time although I attended the meetings with the wife until she took sick, thats when it became obvious to her that they didn't care and never really did., after she passed away I didn't get but two visits, one about the reject Jesus party which I declined and another sister who was supposedly my wife's good service buddy and they went out together at least one to two times per week took 5 months to stop by and that only because she seen me working in the yard. she asked if I was attending meetings and I avoided the issue by telling her that I wouldn't attend their particular hall anymore becuase of the conditional love and not caring about my family. That they were dead to me and I no longer cared about them as a congregation. She shut up then and told me they missed me, and i told her that is a crock, becasue if they missed me and my daughter they would have called or came by to see if they could encourage us etc etc. Well no one did, so we don't care about your congregation either. When asked where we were going I told her we don't we aren't apart of a people that only care in word but never in deed, well its almost two years now and still no visits which is just fine with me. I would tell them to get the hell off of my property if they ever showed up.
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Who left or got stumbled over the 1995 generation thing?
by Julia Orwell inor the 2000's generation thing?.
how did you feel?
how did it help you wake up?
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ssn587
I remember specially that November 1995 Wt, what a load of hooey, told the wife there is something very wrong her, and she of course being blinded by the bs went right on as if nothing happened, that and researching 607 vs 587/586 got me on the road to being mentally out, didn't break fully until 2011 after my wife passed away. But mentally was gone but stayed in because of wife, she was happy, and hell I had accompanied her when she had gone to the Catholic church where i would zone out and then zoned out after that November article. After her passing the real love of the congregation showed, we seemed to have disappeared me and my children who were still at home were forgotten like we never existed. I attended the propaganda bs for her funeral because that is what she had wanted and requested if something ever happened to her. After that my feet never again to this date have stepped into a kingdom hall and I never will go through that door again. The lie lie lie and the rank and file just sit there like zombies and let the drivel wash acroos what ever brain synapses they have active at the time and do no thinking whatsoever on what is taking place. Good thing about the lazy assed congregation no one comes around ever and it's a good thing because i would hit them with both barrels.
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ssn587
Agree Steve2, her bag was empty like their "prophecy" of the end being right around the corner.
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Why do they call it the New World Translation?
by Tameria2001 indoes anyone know why the watchtower named their bible the new world translation of the holy scriptures?
it's been awhile since i have even had any of their books in my home, and most of the time i don't think about it.
i don't know why, but when i think of that title, the phrase new world order keeps popping up in my mind..
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ssn587
a Better Title might be, "How In The World Did We Get This Translation". remember you can't fix what doesn't want to be fixed.
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Another Jehovah-Witness-supportive documentary
by A.M. Number 1 inhttp://www.dailynews.com/ci_21983668.
just its existence makes me mad though, so i don't know if i could contain my rage.
it might just be too much for me to handle.
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ssn587
see if you don't agree with someone then the attacks and slurs begin, we don't have to agree with what others say and may find it foolish, but they still have the right to say it, that shouldn't give us a right to put people down just because we think what they say is stupid.
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Watchtower Quotes Condemning Disfellowship for dissenting views as Radical, Satanic
by BU2B in"rather, like the church of rome their ["religious leaders of today"] influence is exerted to restrain investigation within the sectarian limits.
with the implied threat of disfellowship, they urge their ministers and students not to search continually for truth, but to accept the voice of their sect as infallible.
" watchtower 1887 apr p.923.
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ssn587
Yeah, but when it't them it is different, why because they say so and you had better stfu or you too will be disfellowshipped. See aren't we following the bible???