My thoughts exactly Palmtree. For the unbelievers and those who have never experienced any dealings with the unknown, great, but don't be so presumptuous in assuming those having experience with it to be bogus or having a vivid imagination. I am under no necessity of having to provide any kind of tangible evidence to convince you. I do believe there is more to this life than just us mere mortals.
Girlie
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Ouija Board Hysteria
by Megachusen ini always wondered why jw's were always so afraid of ouija(pronounced as "wee-yaw" not "wee-gee") boards.
does anyone have any speculation about who started these jw myths?.
anyone who has actually tried the board and would like to give their opinions are welcome.
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All About Palmtree
by palmtree67 inhere's my story:.
i am the oldest of 5 children.
my parents and grandparents ( on my dad's side ) are all jw's.
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Girlie
What an encouraging testimony, Palmtree. Such resilience you possess. I can truly relate to having a dysfunctional family. I was raised in a very unstable home environment myself. I believe that was probably one of the reasons I joined the JWs, thinking that it was a safe haven.
I am happy that you have managed to find a measure of peace and happiness out of the chaos and may you continue to abound in such peace and happiness. Congrats to you and M and may the party be a success.
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Ouija Board Hysteria
by Megachusen ini always wondered why jw's were always so afraid of ouija(pronounced as "wee-yaw" not "wee-gee") boards.
does anyone have any speculation about who started these jw myths?.
anyone who has actually tried the board and would like to give their opinions are welcome.
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Well let's see. I tried the Quija board and the spirit threatened to kill me. My 1st and last time messing with a Quija board.
Edited: Of course, calling it names while poking it in the eye could have been the probable cause of why it threatened me. lol
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What is God's Will for us, right now ?
by wobble ini ask because in wt literatrash ,and other christian writings,we often read that we need to be doing god's will now.. what exactly does he expect of me ?
i am willing, so to pinch a phrase "here i am,send me ".
love.
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Girlie
No I haven't. I have much to learn in this journey. Not wanting to hijack the board, but if possible, I would like for some here to pm me some suggested reading materials. Would help much.
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What is God's Will for us, right now ?
by wobble ini ask because in wt literatrash ,and other christian writings,we often read that we need to be doing god's will now.. what exactly does he expect of me ?
i am willing, so to pinch a phrase "here i am,send me ".
love.
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Girlie
Honestly, I don't have a clue what God's will is for me. I have been very disappointed in him and his manner of handling affairs. A part of me still wants to believe and accept him in my life, yet another is saying why bother? More likely, the confusion comes from the new fading/questioning of the WT and trying to figure out where to go from there.
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Roll call - How many here fake being a "good Jehovah's Witness"....like me!
by Witness 007 inthere is no truth...i know that.
to please my mum while she's alive and wife i go to meetings and the 3 day convention coming up.
i would rather go to the dentist.
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Girlie
"Raises hand". However, I don't go to much meetings. I just tell people I go to so and so meeting, when in reality, I just stay at home or do other things. I can't stand being around such fake, self-centered people.
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I want to do volunteer work - this is classic
by heybaby init has always bothered my how witnesses are discouraged from doing volunteer work because "preaching to them about the truth is the best thing we can do!
" ok, yeah, whatever.
it's true that the bible talks about preaching as being important for christians, but that's far from being the only thing that christians are encouraged to do for their fellow humans.
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Girlie
I do volunteer work. It is very rich and rewarding. Not to mention the possibility of meeting some very good people. I say do it and don't give it a second thought. It is truly a "spiritual" experience.
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JW's view of suidice
by highdose inbefore i was severed from the borg, i noticed that they did seem to change their minds about suidice not being worthy of a resserrection.. mind you it was very very vague in an article... and everyone was saying " do they mean this?
" or "do they mean that?".
is anyone aware of the current stance?.
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Girlie
Edited: There was a watchtower or an awake article that spoke about suicide and how only Jehovah is the one who has the final judgement on rather he deems the person worthy of a resurrection or not as only he knows the pain and suffering the individual was undergoing that lead to it. Not sure of how you feel about the website, but if you go to there and look under their current events section, I believe there is an article they have on it that you can download from the site.
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1995 Generation change - Awake! Masthead change
by SuspiciousMinds inthis is regarding the change in the wording of the awake!
masthead regarding "the creator's promise" to restore paradise.
i believe the change happened between the octbober 22 and november 8 issues.
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Thanks BS (no pun intended). Had to change and reformat my post.
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1995 Generation change - Awake! Masthead change
by SuspiciousMinds inthis is regarding the change in the wording of the awake!
masthead regarding "the creator's promise" to restore paradise.
i believe the change happened between the octbober 22 and november 8 issues.
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Girlie
Edited: Lord, it doesn't end. Now here is another "new light" on this generation. This is taken from the Feb. 15, 2008 Watchtower, pp 23-24, paragraphs 10 -15. No wonder I decided to fade:
The Generation Seeing the Sign
10 Previously, this journal has explained that in the first century, “this generation” mentioned at Matthew 24:34 meant “the contemporaneous generation of unbelieving Jews.” That explanation seemed reasonable because all other recorded uses that Jesus made of the term “generation” had a negative connotation, and in most cases, Jesus used a negative adjective, such as “wicked,” to describe the generation. (Matt. 12:39; 17:17; Mark 8:38) Thus, it was felt that in the modern-day fulfillment, Jesus was referring to the wicked “generation” of unbelievers who would see both the features that would characterize “the conclusion of the system of things” (syn·te′lei·a) and the system’s end (te′los).
11 It is true that when Jesus used the word “generation” negatively, he was speaking to or about the wicked people of his day. But was that necessarily true of his statement recorded at Matthew 24:34? Recall that four of Jesus’ disciples had approached him “privately.” (Matt. 24:3) Since Jesus did not use negative qualifiers when speaking to them about “this generation,” the apostles would no doubt have understood that they and their fellow disciples were to be part of the “generation” that would not pass away “until all these things [would] occur.”
12 On what basis may we draw that conclusion? By carefully considering the context. As recorded at Matthew 24:32, 33, Jesus said: “Now learn from the fig tree as an illustration this point: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and it puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. Likewise also you, when you see allthesethings, know that he is near at the doors.” (Compare Mark 13:28-30; Luke 21:30-32.) Then, at Matthew 24:34, we read: “Truly I say to you that thisgeneration will by no means pass away until allthesethings occur.”
13 Jesus said that it was his disciples, soon to be anointed with holy spirit, who should be able to draw certain conclusions when they saw “all these things” occur. So Jesus must have been referring to his disciples when he made the statement: “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.”
14 Unlike unbelievers, Jesus’ disciples would not only see the sign but also understand its significance. They would “learn” from the features of that sign and “know” their true meaning. They would fully appreciate that “he is near at the doors.” While it is true that both unbelieving Jews and faithful anointed Christians saw a limited fulfillment of Jesus’ words in the first century, only his anointed followers back then could learn from these events—could understand the true meaning of what they saw.
15Those without spiritual understanding today have felt that there has been no “striking observableness” with regard to the sign of Jesus’ presence. They reason that everything is continuing on as it did in the past. (2 Pet. 3:4) On the other hand, Christ’s faithful anointed brothers, the modern-day John class, have recognized this sign as if it were a flash of lightning and have understood its true meaning. As a class, these anointed ones make up the modern-day “generation” of contemporaries that will not pass away “until all these things occur.” This suggests that some who are Christ’s anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins.
Now I am confused here. Wasn't this the original understanding of WTSB prior to November 1, 1995? Why change and go back? Again, no wonder why I am fading.