Posts by sd-7

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Hubby's lying

by KariOtt in

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i confronted my hubby about his lying to my facebook friends.

as i figured he denied they were lies.

i asked him that if he could explain how i cut off communication with my sister since it was her who got the restraining order/no contact order and not me.

sd-7

"Do you accept this man's resignation? And do you accept the resignation of all these liars? Of all the corrupt?!"

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So apostates = Emmanuel Goldstein?

by ilikecheese in

sorta kinda?

do you think they'll ever have an "apostate" face on a wall for everyone to yell at for a few minutes during meeting?

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sd-7

Yeah, except they've extended it to the Ten Minutes Hate, I believe. Though in harmony with Jehovah's loving arrangement, Hate Week has been shortened to the Three Days' Hate.

--sd-7

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Falling asleep whilst praying..

by punkofnice in

when i believed in jehovah(tm), i'd pray to him at night.

i'd doze off.. i remember admonition from the podium that it was disrespectful to doze off during our personal prayers to imaginary sky god jehovah(tm).. i'd wake up.

say sorry to jehovah(tm) then either carry on grovelling or just end it.. one thing's for sure, asleep or awake, pray or not it makes no difference........no one's listening!.

"There may even be some anointed ones, perhaps elderly in years, who may at times fall asleep while praying. Such ones can be reassured that God does not hold their human frailties against them. How comforting it is to know that Jehovah is 'the God of tender mercies and the Father of all comfort'!"

--sd-7

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Are We Approaching A Class Action Suit For Damages By Those Who Have Left The Watchtower Corporation Over Hate Speach, Enforced Disfellowshipping And Defamation Of Character ?

by frankiespeakin in

i think it is comming in the future.

the evidence is piling up on the internet, assembly talks, letters to body of elders, and an increasing number of those being harmed by the cruel treatment and lies of the watchtower corporation that are clearly a form of malice.. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/malice.

1. a desire to harm others or to see others suffer; extreme ill will or spite.2.

sd-7

No.

--sd-7

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Strategy game controlling JW religion

by slimboyfat in

along the lines of my previous thread.... .

would it be a cool idea to invent a computer strategy game where you are in control of jehovah's witnesses and you can manipulate various policies and watch the results?

run your own religion.

sd-7

Sort of like a SimOrganization, or The Sims: JW Edition...but it would be forbidden. "We imitate the faithful slave, not by playing simulation video games, but by having as full a share in the ministry as possible."

--sd-7

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Genuine repentance - if you can fake that you'll avoid getting disfellowshipped

by slimboyfat in

to paraphrase a well known saying.

is it true, in a judicial committee, if you can fake repentance, then they are likely to let you off being disfellowshipped, almost regardless of the "severity" of the sin involved?

can former elders and perhaps victims of the process shed light on the matter?

sd-7

If there has been a "practice" of sin, or if it is an offense for which you have been DF'ed before, then even if you blather on about a "damaged relationship with Jehovah" they'll DF you.

<<<---Not necessarily. My wife had been DF'd before, but she got off with private reproof on our JC (which for her was fornication). I'm guessing it was her reward for turning in a bona fide apostate (me). She was commenting at meetings a month later. It could be argued that since she came forward to confess, whereas I did not, she was 'repentant'. Of course, how would we be found 'unrepentant' since it was fornication? We'd been married for months, after all.

Although...she did play up the whole "if I'd listened to Jehovah, none of this would have happened", so... For whatever reason they seemed to still think the world of her (in stark contrast to the elders in the congregation she got DF'd from before). It's possible they let her off because they wanted primarily to save most of their time and energy for making an example of me. I did get the vibe from the chairman that he had a nearly personal problem with me (why, I don't know--we never even got to know each other at all). As I've often recounted on JWN, he was literally yelling at the other elders on the JC behind closed doors (yeah, I eavesdropped, it was just too tempting) about not wanting apostates in the congregation.

It's clear that this setup is the farthest thing from impartial. More like 'Game of Thrones'-style "king's justice", if anything. The Mad King, perhaps...

--sd-7

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DC Drama stirs up drama of it's own!!!

by DATA-DOG in

remember the drama about persecution,suffering, that a modern-day job experiences?

the jw's under ban in a " landmark ruling", our faithful brother conversing with job in the new world, it' all too wonderful!

especially job wearing pants and a tunic style shirt!

sd-7

This is just bizarre. Thing is, they have no idea what would happen if there were a resurrection. Heck, mind you, they think the resurrection has already begun, in, what, 1918, 1919? Whatever? No, guys. Just no.

You know, I figure there's a certain point somewhere out there where you say, maybe we can just let them figure it out for themselves, you know, use their 'Bible-trained conscience'? Nope. Conscience? What's that? Obedience to the direction of the WT--that's what "conscience" is to them. There's just no end to the number of ways they can make up rules.

This kind of power is just too dangerous for anyone to have over 7 million people.

--sd-7

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The unholy trinity of judicial committees

by Blttex in

if judicial committees have jehovahs direction and holy spirit why must they be made up of three members?

is the holy spirit not capable of communicating its wishes to just one person alone?

or is it perhaps to give the appearance of fairness and justice.

sd-7

Well, it maxes out the 2-3 witness rule, for one. On a more practical note, it prevents a tied vote when the decision comes to DF a person. (Or just give 'em reproof.)

--sd-7

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Needed - a printable 2013 DC badge

by venetian in

is anyone able to post this years dc badge for printing?.

i'm a man with a plan .

mawahhhhhhh!.

sd-7

Unless you're planning to attempt to get literature, it may actually be better to go without a badge. I went in a suit with a goatee, no badge, and I was assumed to be an 'unbelieving mate' and greeted with smiles by people who didn't know me. Some of 'em even did so in the hotel! I think somebody even hugged me, though my wife was trying to 'warn' them! This is a huge recruitment draw, a public event like this, so going 'badgeless' works, in theory.

I made a lovely 'Safeguard Your Sparlock!' District Convention badge awhile back. I didn't wear it, but it was pretty cool. Had a little picture of Sparlock on there, my name, and the congregation I got kicked out of.

--sd-7

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WTB&TS propaganda success

by smiddy in

you do have to hand it to the wtb&ts for their propaganda success , i remember vaguely an awake ?

or a watchtower ?

article on germanys propaganda campaign during world war two in which they acknowedged their success in acheiving their goals .i can not be specific when this article appeared maybe in the 60`s or 70`s or possibly the 80`s i just cant remember , however i lean towards the 60`s or 70`s .

sd-7

Then, after you have read how well the Awake! writers understand the tools of propaganda and you see how well they use them, you will realize that there is only one reasonable, logical conclusion: the deceptions of the WTBTS Leaders are both willful and deliberate.

It's chilling to realize this. I don't think I fully understood till I started reading the transcript from the Conti trial. By the end of the first day, it was clear: they will say or do anything, anything, to further their agenda.

--sd-7