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  Bizarre, nonsensical answer from JW.org on their FAQ page...

  by Muddy Waters in

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  the answer on the faq page makes no sense.

  the question is: "why don't you call your meeting place a church?".

  the answer makes no sense at all.

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  sd-7

  Well, you should see the other answers to FAQs. "Are you tolerant of other religions?" is an interesting one...

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  Anyone who's seen 'Man of Steel', can we talk about SPOILER-related stuff?

  by sd-7 in

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  if the title of the thread wasn't enough, spoiler alert.. spoiler alert.. .

  okay...so...that said, i haven't seen the movie, which would be a paradox except that i read the novelization.

  so...how'd you feel about the way it ended?

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  If the title of the thread wasn't enough, SPOILER ALERT.

  SPOILER ALERT.

  Okay...so...that said, I haven't seen the movie, which would be a paradox except that I read the novelization. So...how'd you feel about the way it ended? I was left feeling a bit confused emotionally. I guess I was expecting to feel more uplifted. It's just...the matter of Superman, you know, offing Zod. I mean, I get the reasons why, but...it just seems inappropriate for the first film, because it sets a tone that this is a Superman who will kill people if he has to, when if anything it'd make more sense for him not to kill Zod and maybe find his hand forced in a later film/story.

  It also seems like he's got a very uneasy relationship with the government/military (for very good reasons since he might feel a little bothered by their handing him over to Zod in the first place). I think that part makes sense, but in the aftermath of him snapping a guy's neck, it makes me feel like this Superman might decide to do it again...(mind you, there could be more dialogue in the movie that I'm missing, so...) But of course, Superman has been known to oppose unethical or morally gray stuff the government does (social commentary on spying/drones, anyone?). I certainly think this character would get ripped to shreds publicly by Lex Luthor, except he did kind of you know, save Metropolis and the world. Let's face it, it's not like they could've arrested Zod or put him on trial. Nor could they get him into the Phantom Zone (which would've been the more logical way to end it, in my mind).

  Of course Zod deserved what happened, but...Superman doesn't do stuff like that, normally. I've heard it's happened (rarely) in comics before, so I get that there is precedence for it, but...I'm just hoping it's not something that gets ignored if/when there's a sequel. Then again, it could be argued that Batman...sorta caused Two-face's death in 'The Dark Knight'. And one would imagine he could've killed someone in the midst of all the random cars and stuff he blows up during chase scenes.

  I did think the 'Man of Steel' story was nonetheless entertaining and an interesting take on Superman. I'm wondering--about that Kryptonian codex--is that a reference to Brainiac? The description in the novel made me think of Brainiac.

  I'm kinda hoping that they consider a 'World's Finest' movie after this. Batman would surely be drawn into curiosity after his satellite was destroyed. Reminds me of the opening episode of the 'Justice League' animated series where Batman is investigating security breaches in his Deep Space Monitoring Network. But at this point, I reckon it's wishful thinking. Still, WB will surely want to milk this for all it's worth since they've definitely got a hit on their hands. So I'm hopeful there'll be a 'Justice League' or 'World's Finest' in the future.

  Anyway, any thoughts on the movie?

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  Hubby's lying

  by KariOtt in

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  i confronted my hubby about his lying to my facebook friends.

  as i figured he denied they were lies.

  i asked him that if he could explain how i cut off communication with my sister since it was her who got the restraining order/no contact order and not me.

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  "Do you accept this man's resignation? And do you accept the resignation of all these liars? Of all the corrupt?!"
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  So apostates = Emmanuel Goldstein?

  by ilikecheese in

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  sorta kinda?

  do you think they'll ever have an "apostate" face on a wall for everyone to yell at for a few minutes during meeting?

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  Yeah, except they've extended it to the Ten Minutes Hate, I believe. Though in harmony with Jehovah's loving arrangement, Hate Week has been shortened to the Three Days' Hate.

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  Falling asleep whilst praying..

  by punkofnice in

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  when i believed in jehovah(tm), i'd pray to him at night.

  i'd doze off.. i remember admonition from the podium that it was disrespectful to doze off during our personal prayers to imaginary sky god jehovah(tm).. i'd wake up.

  say sorry to jehovah(tm) then either carry on grovelling or just end it.. one thing's for sure, asleep or awake, pray or not it makes no difference........no one's listening!.

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  "There may even be some anointed ones, perhaps elderly in years, who may at times fall asleep while praying. Such ones can be reassured that God does not hold their human frailties against them. How comforting it is to know that Jehovah is 'the God of tender mercies and the Father of all comfort'!"

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  Are We Approaching A Class Action Suit For Damages By Those Who Have Left The Watchtower Corporation Over Hate Speach, Enforced Disfellowshipping And Defamation Of Character ?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i think it is comming in the future.

  the evidence is piling up on the internet, assembly talks, letters to body of elders, and an increasing number of those being harmed by the cruel treatment and lies of the watchtower corporation that are clearly a form of malice.. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/malice.

  1. a desire to harm others or to see others suffer; extreme ill will or spite.2.

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  No.

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  Strategy game controlling JW religion

  by slimboyfat in

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  along the lines of my previous thread.... .

  would it be a cool idea to invent a computer strategy game where you are in control of jehovah's witnesses and you can manipulate various policies and watch the results?

  run your own religion.

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  sd-7

  Sort of like a SimOrganization, or The Sims: JW Edition...but it would be forbidden. "We imitate the faithful slave, not by playing simulation video games, but by having as full a share in the ministry as possible."

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  Genuine repentance - if you can fake that you'll avoid getting disfellowshipped

  by slimboyfat in

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  to paraphrase a well known saying.

  is it true, in a judicial committee, if you can fake repentance, then they are likely to let you off being disfellowshipped, almost regardless of the "severity" of the sin involved?

  can former elders and perhaps victims of the process shed light on the matter?

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  If there has been a "practice" of sin, or if it is an offense for which you have been DF'ed before, then even if you blather on about a "damaged relationship with Jehovah" they'll DF you.

  <<<---Not necessarily. My wife had been DF'd before, but she got off with private reproof on our JC (which for her was fornication). I'm guessing it was her reward for turning in a bona fide apostate (me). She was commenting at meetings a month later. It could be argued that since she came forward to confess, whereas I did not, she was 'repentant'. Of course, how would we be found 'unrepentant' since it was fornication? We'd been married for months, after all.

  Although...she did play up the whole "if I'd listened to Jehovah, none of this would have happened", so... For whatever reason they seemed to still think the world of her (in stark contrast to the elders in the congregation she got DF'd from before). It's possible they let her off because they wanted primarily to save most of their time and energy for making an example of me. I did get the vibe from the chairman that he had a nearly personal problem with me (why, I don't know--we never even got to know each other at all). As I've often recounted on JWN, he was literally yelling at the other elders on the JC behind closed doors (yeah, I eavesdropped, it was just too tempting) about not wanting apostates in the congregation.

  It's clear that this setup is the farthest thing from impartial. More like 'Game of Thrones'-style "king's justice", if anything. The Mad King, perhaps...

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  DC Drama stirs up drama of it's own!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  remember the drama about persecution,suffering, that a modern-day job experiences?

  the jw's under ban in a " landmark ruling", our faithful brother conversing with job in the new world, it' all too wonderful!

  especially job wearing pants and a tunic style shirt!

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  This is just bizarre. Thing is, they have no idea what would happen if there were a resurrection. Heck, mind you, they think the resurrection has already begun, in, what, 1918, 1919? Whatever? No, guys. Just no.

  You know, I figure there's a certain point somewhere out there where you say, maybe we can just let them figure it out for themselves, you know, use their 'Bible-trained conscience'? Nope. Conscience? What's that? Obedience to the direction of the WT--that's what "conscience" is to them. There's just no end to the number of ways they can make up rules.

  This kind of power is just too dangerous for anyone to have over 7 million people.

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  The unholy trinity of judicial committees

  by Blttex in

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  if judicial committees have jehovahs direction and holy spirit why must they be made up of three members?

  is the holy spirit not capable of communicating its wishes to just one person alone?

  or is it perhaps to give the appearance of fairness and justice.

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  sd-7

  Well, it maxes out the 2-3 witness rule, for one. On a more practical note, it prevents a tied vote when the decision comes to DF a person. (Or just give 'em reproof.)

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