Posts by Heartbreaker

I think the only times I would really delve into a subject was if I had a talk, or I had just had a fight with my husband or a problem with raising my children. Then I'd throw myself into it, try to get spiritually encouraged, and "do the right thing" so that I wasn't the problem (in the fight) and so I could feel better than everyone else. Man, what I tool I was at times.

PS I never DID feel better, just better about myself because I did the thing I was supposed to do, but I didn't take away any real knowledge.

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I love my daughter

by SixofNine in

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she's just the coolest person.

and so completely, delightfully, worldly.

tonight she invited me to come hang out, if i wasn't doing anything, with all her friends at a halloween party tomorrow.

Heartbreaker

Six, that is some cool "stuff" right there, be honored, and GO. :)

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Not without my daughters

by IronHill in

anyone remember that movie?

sally field playing an abused wife trying to leave iran with her daughter?

my current situation reminds me of that movie.. ok a little background.... i have two beautiful daughters from a previous marriage.

Heartbreaker

Well without knowing your daughters ages or ability to reason it's hard to say. Also, your ex has been out a long time? If so (or maybe even without a lot of time out I suppose) she would have changes and reforms to do in her life, and it is a process. Is she up to doing all of that? Will it be successful (her seeking reinstatement?) I'd say that you should quiet the rage, and keep the 1/2 a week visits just as you always have, and show your daughters that something that looks like truth may not be truth. Teach them to test out the policies...like birthdays...where does a birthday violate bible principles? etc etc. Did you exwife celebrate holidays with them? They already probably have a preference, which all kids do, towards having fun and having "sameness" in school with their peers. Now they can share this with you and your wife, yes?

Likely your ex just liked the fact that she could live how she wanted, and told herself that the girls salvation would fall onto you, and by you leaving as well she feels the heat. It will either fizzle out and she'll chill, or it will intensify and she will become a full fledge JW again. Either way, you are there for your daughters.

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Child Molestation and the Two Witness Rule

by garyneal in

this morning, as i was fixing breakfast, my wife and i got on the subject of religion (again) and i apologized to her for some of the things i said yesterday regarding the jehovah's witnesses.. in short, i said that given the way she treated me in regards to keeping me in the dark about certain financial situations, overdrawing her checking account and running up $500 in credit card debt due to her overdrafts that i am surprised the elder and his wife would approve of her activities in light of their teachings.

i said, "when you go to their house and study that book 'keeping yourself in god's love' with them, ask them what they would think of you taking such a nonchalant attitude over how you are managing the household finances and the way you respond to me when i inquire about the situation.

telling me that 'i should not worry' and that 'i am being fed and have a roof over my head' in such a way that i should just be quiet about it and let you be in charge.

Heartbreaker

Wow Gary, that's just tough. I can tell you personally, I'd be willing to email her my personal story, living in a family that suffered sexual abuse with minors, disfellowshipping of siblings, of myself, of cousins....and the shunning attached to it. My best friend was also living in a household where there was sexual abuse. It's rampant, it's everywhere, the world and JW's Org alike, the only difference is, is in the way it's handled for the most part. Secrecy, shaming of the victim, silence towards the perpetrator, which allows that one power. It's just sick sick business, and I wish she'd read silentlambs, or ask around at the hall, or her local body of elders, what is the "right" way to treat a disfellowshipped one. Heck, even read her own publications!! It's insanity, but I understand her blinders. I really do. PM me if I can be of help.

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How many of you knew about the"Jesus is not your Mediator" teaching when you were JWs??

by Lady Liberty in

hi everyone.... just curious how many of you knew when you were active, about the societys official teaching regarding jesus the mediator.

i was floored to find in my research, that they teach jesus is the mediator for the 144,000 only.

and it is only by our association with them that we might have salvation.. i don't know about you guys but i was blown away when i learned they taught this.

Heartbreaker

You know what, I only read the very first post, asking the original question, so I hope LL that the subject hasn't taken a left turn ;) I was blown away too, as was my husband. In fact, he called bullsheeet on the whole thing, and I was able to find and quote a thread on here, with the obligatory WT quotes. Neither of us could believe it. I always thought it was so very important to end your prayer with "in Jesus Christ name amen" for that VERY REASON.

Funny aside to this story, my 2 middle children are very close in age and learned to pray aloud together. When they'd end their prayers they'd say "Crease Crise amen" I never had the heart to correct them, and they only learned the real way by listening to their dad at mealtimes.

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I couldn't face going

by cantleave in

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i was suspossed to go to the meeting today, gotta to keep up the pretense in order to facillitate my fade.

instead i had nice lie in, i visited my non-witness dad, and then met up with my first aspostate from this site mr. majestic.. i didn't want to go to the meeting because meetings make me angry, i can now see the techniques used to control the congregation by fear.

i can't stand the thought that so many good people are being fed a banquet of lies and deception.. i could so easily never attend again..

Heartbreaker

Then that my friend is a step in the right direction indeed.

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I couldn't face going

by cantleave in

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i was suspossed to go to the meeting today, gotta to keep up the pretense in order to facillitate my fade.

instead i had nice lie in, i visited my non-witness dad, and then met up with my first aspostate from this site mr. majestic.. i didn't want to go to the meeting because meetings make me angry, i can now see the techniques used to control the congregation by fear.

i can't stand the thought that so many good people are being fed a banquet of lies and deception.. i could so easily never attend again..

Heartbreaker

cantleave, that's exactly what happened to my husband and I. We just woke up one Sunday and didn't go...we never looked back. Of course it's easier with your spouse helping you and standing with you, I realize that. Just remembering that very feeling, almost breathless anticipation of NOT going, not ever.

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Will there be more KH closings?

by Gayle in

http://www.patriotledger.com/news/x686278928/marshfield-religious-landmark-up-for-sale.

with local membership declining, the congregation has merged with the kingdom hall in rockland.. .

said the two congregations recently decided to combine to be spiritually stronger ... so we can continue to do our preaching work, and take care of one another.. .

Heartbreaker

I hope so.

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My JW Mother Asked if I Could Get Her the Yearly Information on the TMS

by OnTheWayOut in

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while i was active, i would find someone on the web that would post/share their complete reference information on the theocratic ministry school and i would print it for my mother.

it would include all the wt materials excerpted from their books for each week's school.

many people did it.

Heartbreaker

Thanks Cattails, sure nothing corporate about that, right?