This is in the archives somewhere, I remember this being discussed before in detail. I'm sure someone will come along and answer, but in the meantime use the search feature and see what happens.
AdaMakawee
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HELP! Sinning Elders can stay as elders if they have blessing! when did this happened?
by cyberjesus inok i have heard that at the beginning of the 80's the instruction said that the elders could remain as elders even if they had sinned 3 years before as long as their lives looked like they had jehovahs blessing.
i heard this instuction was givien in elders meeting.. does any one has more information?
i needed asap.
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Donny Osmond?! WTF??
by undercover ini don't normally give a rat's arse what happens on dancing with the stars, don't see it every week even, but i did watch the finale.
having seen the last couple of episodes, i thought for sure mya would win...should win.. but donny osmond??.
maybe the end is near....
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AdaMakawee
I'll admit Maya was a good dancer, but she laid the makeup on with a trowel and she just seemed very fake to me. I'll give her this, she has drive and tenacity, but so did all of them. What made Kelly Osborne so great was that she was/is REAL. You got to see her grow and achieve something, watch her self confidence go from practically nothing to where she was proud of her achievement.
This show isn't about turning out polished professional dancers that will win a contract in Vegas, if so they would advertise it like that. Its about the human psyche and about developing into something.
I don't like the Osmands, never have, but I thought his improv dance or whatever it was, was the best one of all three of them. Plus, I expected all the mormans would be rounded up and vote for him anyway. The mormans couldn't buy better PR than Donny Osmand. He isn't sanctimonious, he isn't pious, he has fun, and he seems genuinly a nice guy.
One thing I know about Maya, she will go far and it has nothing whatsoever about winning the program. Everyone knows that on all of these types of shows (America's Got Talent, American Idol, etc.), most often the most talented person does NOT win. And those in the top 5 usually go on to a pretty decent career. I think she did better off by not winning then she would have done by taking home that tacky mirror ball.
My two cents.
Ada
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What accusations do you have about us JWs? AND what group are YOU a part of?
by theMadJW in.
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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.
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AdaMakawee
Ok, now I have to say this, unpopular as it may be. For an apologist, at least madjw is entertaining. He has no argument, but he has a sense of humor. And who knows, perhaps he'll eventually use that brain of his to understand just how failed the WTS prophecies really are.
Ada
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I'm already starting to feel normal
by doublelife infor the first time today, when my boss asked what i'm going to be doing for thanksgiving, i didn't have to go into this awkward explaination of why i don't celebrate it.
i simply said that i'm going over my aunt's.
it may sound trivial but it feels great!
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AdaMakawee
This thread is a joy to read. Happy Thanksgiving to all of you!
Ada
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What are you Thankful for this year?
by lovelylil2 inin the spirit of thanksgiving, thought i ask what everyone is thankful for.. i am thankful for my family's good health and happiness, for the great friends i have, for my job that i absolutely love, for celebrating my 7th year of freedom this month from the wt publishing cult.. anyone else?.
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AdaMakawee
This is kind of different than the others here, but on my mind anyway. I grew up in a very abusive household. I never knew anything else, and consequently my relationships were initially abusive too. I was terrified (as I learned to come out of such things) that my son and I would also have a toxic relationship, I truly didn't know any kids that had a good relationship with their parents. So all I could do was try every day not to make the same mistakes my parents and others I knew, had made.
Fast forward to now... I am thankful that my grown son loves me, that we can have an open honest discussion without threats and violence. I'm thankful that he confides in me and that he and I are friends. I'm thankful that I have two siblings out of the JW madness that I also have a fairly normal, loving relationship with, though we are in varying stages of recovery from the past. I'm thankful that my sister has started talking to me after years of shunning me, and that even though she is not totally out of the mind control, that she is willing to establish a relationship after all this time. I pray that she can not only be finally free from the abusive religion, but also from the abusive relationship she has been in for years as well.
Lastly, I'm thankful to be alive right now. I have had a very serious illness and am just now getting back on my feet again.
Thanks everyone here for this forum and for the support it provides to people coming to their senses after a lifetime (or seems like a lifetime) experience with the cult.
Bless you all and happy Thanksgiving.
Ada
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AdaMakawee
I just today got word from the doctor that my lungs are now functioning again, I got a severe viral infection in my lungs and it turned into acute asthma. I've been on mass amounts of steroids and have no immune system left at this moment. So yes, yesterday I got my flu shot. I can't risk getting that flu it would kill me right now.
If you aren't in a high risk group, don't get it. It's that simple. For me, I really had no choice.
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Bird Watching....it's addictive
by restrangled ini know it sounds crazy but i am having more fun with this than any other hobby.. i joined cornell university's: http://www.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/.
the fights between the squirrels and jays is hilarious to watch, and i get new species every day.
i finally put out food on the ground for the squirrels and they are dive bombed by the birds, making them jump with about 3 feet in the air with surprise.. the birds and squirrels have become so tame they don't panic when i come out to fill the feeders.
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AdaMakawee
There's a pond outside my living room window and I sit here often watching the birds. There are many, but my favorites are: the snowy egret, the great blue heron, red-winged blackbirds, and the lesser bittern. I could watch the herons all day, I just love the way they move. I used to live where I saw bald eagles and osprey all the time, but don't see them here in Oregon as much, or not where I'm at.
It's really cool sometimes first thing in the morning in late fall and winter when I'm taking my dog out, the foggy mist will be twisting around and all of a sudden hundreds of canadian geese will come honking in, a huge wave of them, and set themselves down in the water for their breakfast.
It's infinitely fascinating to me.
Ada
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My wife "Rowan" needs of your support too.
by Gerard inmy wife 'rowan' was born and raised a jw, her father being an elder -a very gentle loving person, but an elder.. some years ago, she was betrayed by a close friend, subjected to a jc and was disfellowshiped & shunned.
the proceeding was completely void of mercy and love, it was much like a violation, a rape.
finding herself df'd was of course terrifying, but the most disapointing outcome was that her father sided with the elders.. eventually she discovered through select books, articles and this board about the fear-driven mind control ways of her religion.
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AdaMakawee
Good morning, Gerard and Rowan, --what an inspirational story to wake up to today. I'm so thrilled to read of your happiness through all the hardships you have endured. Congratulations on the birth of your daughter. Sounds like you have such a strong love for each other that you will go far in your lives together.
Blessed be to you both!
Ada
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single life and oompa steppin out....
by oompa inmy cool dfd son and i are now soooo frikkin close....god i love him to death....he is 24 and really finding his groove and i never shunned him a sec since he was dfd at 17 anyway...but omg the bond we are now having....and he is so glad i am out on my own and being true to myself.
he invited me to a big party a couple of weeks ago....posted about it with cool pics on facebook....a delayed wedding reception for a couple and a going away as well since they are moving of continent....she used to work for me and what a club i found at the party....she is dfd...husband...all friends...my son....even a coulple of old biz partners of mine were there from a crazy lil biz we started once..........in all there were over 30 former dubs at this kickass rocking beautiful party!!!!!.
and there were even 4 dubs there....real slacker...nonjudgemental friends........ahhhhhhh it was a small club and a great time.
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AdaMakawee
Ah take it easy Oomps, you'll get the hang of it all. Takes time, dating is hard stuff after you've been out of the game for so long.
I look forward to hearing more of your saga, though, very entertaining.
Ada
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Your favorite stuffing/dressing recipe for Turkey
by restrangled inevery year i like to try something a little different, but tend to go back to my favorite...whats yours?.
i use 1/2 pepperidge farm seasoned bread crumbs and 1/2 corn bread and add the following".
2 onions chopped and at least 5 stalks celery chopped sauteed in a cup of butter.
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AdaMakawee
My secret ingredient in my stuffing is shredded Asiago cheese. I make mine with homemade cornbread, onions, celery, eggs, milk, butter, same as everyone, but I put in a full piece of that cheese and it makes it so rich and scrumptous everyone always loves it.
This year, unfortunately I won't get to have T-Day, I've been pretty seriously ill and my immune system isn't up to company yet, but I plan on making up for it at Christmas.
Good topic!
Ada