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  What if WT will claim, that Jehovah has pulled a "Jonah and Nineveh" on them?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt seems to be helpless in really dealing with the failed prophecies, pending dates, overlapping groups--.. what if they declare victory, blame jehovah, in that he allowed the nations to come to their senses and not further escalate the use of weaponry, "destroying [life on] the earth"?

  in a second fulfillment of .

  the "repentant ninevites, disappointed jonah" bible story?

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  ... second fulfillment of the "repentant Ninevites, disappointed Jonah" bible Story?

  To consider themselves as latter-day Jonahs would be amusingly appropriate. The story of Jonah is about an unfaithful prophet who does his own will instead of obeying the Lord. A prophet who brings terror and danger to the entire ship's company until the pagan seamen cast him overboard. A prophet who had to be forced by divine intervention to do his job, and even then only did it reluctantly and cynically. A prophet who delighted in the prospect of mass annihilation, and was disappointed by true repentance. A prophet who is the model for the Governing Body!
  
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  BOE 2014-11-06 Procedures when legal issues are involved

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
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  full set: http://imgur.com/a/z4k2t.

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  "I would love to read the "precedents" they will send to attorneys representing JWs when custody of children is at issue.  They might be pure nonsense, but responding to them will cost $$$"

  Freeminds has a critique outlining the WT's "Preparing for Child Custody Cases" pamphlet. This BOE letter essentially admits that the pamphlet exists; they now will have a harder time claiming there is no such thing when an opposing attorney issues a subpoena demanding them to produce it in court.
  
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  BOE 2014-11-06 Procedures when legal issues are involved

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  full set: http://imgur.com/a/z4k2t.

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  GLTirebiter

  Regarding #35: "Don't come back!" does not mean "Try again in two years."
  
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  The True Mark edition of Gospel of JOHN!

  by J-DUBBED in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just got one of these small books in our mailbox.

  new living translation.

  tyndale house publishers.

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  It's not likely to be from JWs. They are committed to the New World Translation. NIV tends to be a more idiomatic than literal translation.
  
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  Opps! 2015 Calendar with errors

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to all congregations in the united states branch territory.

  re: 2015 calendar in english.

  if many publishers in your congregation have requested the 2015 calendar in english,.

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  GLTirebiter

  The conclusion then is either:

  1. The GB do NOT actually "scrutinize" each and every WTBTS publication, or
  2. All of them are poor proof-readers.

  3. The GB and writing staff lack the education which normally would be expected of professional writers and editors.
  
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  After Mar 15 WT, who NOW is represented by the Wise Virgins??

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it used to be that the master "arrived in 1918" and the virgins put their lamps in order.

  according to the noolite, the arrival is yet future.

  however, the gibbering buddies now insist that the annointed have not fallen asleep, but stayed awake up until now.

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  prophetic interpretations of the parables

  There is the root of the problem: not recognizing the different literary genres and styles used in biblical works, trying to turn them all into literal prophecies when the majority were written neither literally nor prophetically. Even the prophetic books (Isaiah, Jeremia, Ezekiel, etc.) often used more poetic styles familar to people of those days, helping them to be easily remembered (a necessity when written books were few and literally hand-written). Those linguistic nuances do not translate easily into modern language and experience, especially not the word-by-word translations favored in the Watchtower's NWT. The modern styles of writing we are familiar with were seldom used twenty centuries ago.
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  What's with this "no windows in kingdom halls" thing?

  by Trapped in JW land in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hear many people on this forum say that kh's don't have windows.

  but i have never been to one that didn't have windows.

  is this only in a certain area or something?.

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  I understand that (locally) it's mostly a matter of cost: building costs and heating/cooling costs. Some of the larger halls in more affluent araes have windows, while smaller and poorer ones do without. Fitting and installing windows also is a task that takes some patience to do well, so it burdens the weekend "quick build" time table; here the cost is in hours rather than in dollars.

  It could also be related to zoning laws. Often the city will require some minimum amount of windows so the building will fit in, not looking too "industrial" for the area. The building committee must include some windows in the plans, so they can get their building permit approved.

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  husbands

  by zeb in

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  2. relationships

  have you found that,.

  the longer she stays 'in' the greater her sense of entitlement?.

  that any convo immediately reverts to the wt 'party line'.

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  Have you found that,

  • the longer she stays 'in' the greater her sense of entitlement?
  • that any convo immediately reverts to the wt 'party line'
  • any plan for any time together is screened against meeting schedules

  Yes,

  yes,

  and yes.

  It kept getting intense right up until I was handed divorce papers.
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  your favourite Christmas music , and merry Christmas to you all

  by jhine in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i am perhaps a bit behind on this but i have just listened to " grandma got run over by a reindeer " sung by elmo and patsy .

  it got me to thinking about christmas songs in general ,so i thought a thread about people's favourite christmas songs would be good .

  please share your fave christmas music , a carol or something more modern .to start i will list my best carol as hark the herald and my best ever chart song as santa claus is coming to town by bruce springsteen .

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  This has been a favorite of mine for almost four decades. Sung by Emmylou Harris, with back-ups from Neil Young, Dolly Parton, and Linda Rondstadt.

  Light of the Stable
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  Just quit quietly - the law is on your side!

  by Ajax in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  freedon of religion guarantees any individual the legal right to abandon any religion at any time for any reason.. if you are a citizen of a country which champions human rights, then your government doesn t care what religion you join, but they will uphold your freedom to join it, without interference, coercion or persecution.

  your countries human rights legislation will conversely uphold your rights when it comes time to abandon any religion you so choose.

  those (elders) who incite others interfere, coerce or persecute those who have left will be in transgression of the human rights statutes.. a person is only obligated to ecclesiastic law if he exposes himself to it or transgressed it while still a member of a religious community.. when your time comes to abandon the jw-wt cult, do it while still in good standing, be proactive - be decisive -put it in writing!..and do it before the hounders set sights on you.. write a card or letter with as much or as little explanation as you one day might wish to share with pharisees and lawyers.. take this card to a notary public to have your signature witnessed and have the writing overstamped in several places with the date.

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  GLTirebiter

  Don't get so preoccupied with the DA letter / JC/ DF situation that you neglect something important. See my comment in this thread.