it has been a while since i've seen a witness, either in person or virtually.
searching for someone on facebook took me to the profile of a ministerial servant that i know.
i scrolled through his wall to see who is still around and found this gem:.
The Art of Propaganda, at which the WBTS excels, comes to mind for me:
*** w56 6/15 p. 360 Getting and Giving the Thoughts of God ***
We usually believe what we want to believe, and one thing we like to believe is that we do our own thinking. Hence it is not too hard for clever propagandists to make us think their thoughts are ours. They plant the thought and nourish it, but do it so subtly that we think it is our own.
my wife and i were witnesses in the melbourne area from 1960-70 covering 5 congregations before moving to an area just north of brisbane for the best part of another23 years which involved another 5 congregations .. maybe our paths crossed or your parents and our paths crossed or people you know crossed our paths .. if you are inclined , i would love to hear from you via pm for privacy , or if you prefer here.. smiddy.
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Hey smiddy, I'm in South East Queensland, and would be happy to meet up for a coffee sometime, and/or exchange PMs.
Greetings Fernando
this is my first post here.. i was raised in "the truth", and am an ex-bethelite who worked in brooklyn for several years back in the 90's.
a few years after i left bethel, i started to become disillusioned after doing research about the society and reading crisis of conscience (i know..i wasn't supposed to do that lol).
i eventually stopped attending meetings and going out in service.
Welcome im_free!
My wife and I have come to exactly the same conclusions from "independently" pursuing the unabridged gospel (especially according to Paul, and especially in Romans).
Greetings and blessings
Fernando
SEQ, Australia
(Our family left the WBTS and religion for good mid-2009, after 4 decades and 4 generations)
okay, russell based his measurements of the pyramid chambers using inches to determine 1914.. however, what if we used egyptian measurements?.
duh!.
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Now where have we seen something like this before (WMF's Wiki link above)?
on october 2, 1914, charles taze russell, founder of the watchtower, announced that the gentile times have ended!.
tomorrow will be exactly 100 years since his historic announcment.. to commemorate this centennial occasion, i will gladly take bets in any amount of money that the world will not end tomorrow and that on friday, october 3rd, 2014 gmt, we will still all be here, for better or worse.. any die-hard jws interested in taking the other side of this friendly little wager?
still hoping the big "a" is coming tomorrow and your loving god, jehovah, is going to commit mass genocide and execute 99.9% of earth's population because they don't follow the dictates the 7 members of the "faithful and discreet slave," aka, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses?.
exJW - What are the odds today?
JW - There aren't any.
exJW - But surely you have a new date?
i have received a link from a friend of mine, he is a baptist pastor.. link address is here.. the article title is: if you dont think the jewish exodus from egypt was real, then watch this video and think again.
the important or interesting thing in this youtube video is that it has some evidence, as the researcher claims, that the exodus happened and the red sea split into two in addition to evidence of egyptian army died at the location.. the documentary is 1 hour 24 minutes long.. .
apologies if this was posted previously but i ran a search and couldnt identify similar one.. as some of you know i am a born-in active jw with a mind of his own!.
Thank you for sharing.
This was of considerable of interest to lay archaeologist "Ron Wyatt".
1 - still think it's the truth ...came to this site cause danger is your middle name.. 2 - concerned, smoething's amiss but still believe.
3 - 98% sure it's bs, but still go for / with family.
4 - anger / denial, inactive with minimal attendance (ie memorial, spec talk etc).
Our whole family is 6 or more (now SBNR).
i am aware this has to be done quite carefully, but how?
while many may complain and see the hypocrisy within the kh's, maybe even with the gb, how does one bring up doctrine issues?
i surely can not tell my husband to "go look what jwfacts.com says".
Welcome, All for show, and a very smart move in not crossing that line.
Many here have observed that questions work best.
Simple.
Strategic.
Incremental.
okay, so its no secret that many of us are hoping to see the downfall of the wtbts (or at least a mass exodous of jws away from them anyway).
i was wondering if you had any thoughts on what this might look like?.
we all know that most every jw has their doubts, large and small, but is afraid to speak due to the illusion of unanimity and self censorship .
"The Illusion of Unanimity and Self Censorship".
Interesting, and whilst I'm sure these play a role, I doubt I ever thought that everyone believed everything the GB said, except maybe in regard to their divine appointment over us dumb sheeple in 1919. How stupid we were...
yesterday a gentleman came by to install some peripherals for my projector room and as he was looking for something to test the connections and picture i told him to look around in the media center for a video.
i cam out about 3 minutes later to see how things were coming and i noticed that i still had a dvd from the jehovah's witnesses.
i bent down to pick it up and as soon as i did he asked me if i was one.. i told him no, but i use to be.
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22John+Salvi%22
" On December 30, 1994, John Salvi walked into a Planned Parenthood clinic in Brookline, Massachusetts. He shot and killed receptionist Shannon Lowney. "
"On December 30, 1994 AD, John Salvi III walked into two Brookline abortion mills to stop the murders by using a 22 caliber rifle. First he fired shots into the ..."
" John Salvi was captured in Norfolk Virginia, after another abortion clinic shooting. On March 19, 1996, he was found guilty of murdering receptionists Lee Ann ... "
