I agree with Nathan Natas - thinking for one's self is the purest form of apostacy against the WTS.
Posts by zoiks
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The most apostate thing you could do..?
by iMARX init's taken me a while to start watching films with ghosts in - even a christmas carol - and then eventually i started smoking pot and it didn't bother me at all.
but there are still some things i would have trouble with doing because of the remains of my christian conscience.. anything you guys still haven't brought yourself to do yet?.
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Myth - The Bible claims to be inspired by God
by gubberningbody inthe bible has 66 books (more if you're catholic, less if you're jewish), and multiple authors.
some of these authors claimed that some of what they wrote down was inspired by god.
that's hardly enough for someone to conclude that the bible claims inspiration for all of the words written by the multiple authors who were involved with writing "it" over the centuries.. .
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zoiks
ALL scripture is inspired... so I guess that the whole Bible, plus the Book of Mormon, plus the Koran in all of its various spellings, plus the sacred texts of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, would all count.
Of course, some of these may have been inspired by some really great weed. But which?!
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February 2010 Study Watchtower - Millions Now Living 'May' Never Die
by Marni Mai injust noticed that in the february 2010 study edition of the watchtower, they refer to the "millions now living will never die" talk in 1918, but they have changed the title to "millions now living may never die".
only problem, they included the picture of the invitation to the talk, which says 'will'.. ooops.
it's on page 16. enjoy.. .
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zoiks
...those of us who truly want to understand the true GOD and draw closer to him
If you are referring to the god that Jehovah's Witnesses worship, then I am afraid you are in the wrong neighborhood!
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Since Leaving The "Truth" Is Your Life Better?
by minimus inyou are told that if you "go back to the vomit" of the world, you will be miserable.. is your life better or worse since you've removed yourself from the organization's hold?.
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zoiks
I would love to be able to fully address this question as a bona fide "former JW". As it stands right now, I'll have
to get back to you later. Maybe in 6 months or a year.
Edit: this new monster avatar goes a long way toward making things better! Wow is it funny... Almost as good as a
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zoiks
I have many wonderful memories, both distant and very recent. The individuals in the org are, for the most part, very good people. Spending time with them was usually fun and interesting.
Now that I'm on my way out, I feel like they are speaking some crazy cult language when I encounter them. Oh wait...
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Newbie greets all
by LeeT inhi all, i thought i'd introduce myself to all you folks.. .
my background with the witnesses goes like this.
when i was 10 my father dies, the following year my mother meets a new man.
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zoiks
Hello there and welcome!
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Daniel 9:2.... 70 years question
by digderidoo insorry to rehash an old topic.. in the first year of his reign, i, daniel, understood from the scriptures, according to the word of the lord given to jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of jerusalem would last seventy years.
daniel is clearly speaking of jeremiah 25, but here he speaks of the desolation of jerusalem, rather than a babylonian dominance of jeremiah.. so how does daniel fit in with a 587/6 date for the destruction of jerusalem and the dominance of the babylonian empire refered to in jeremiah?.
paul.
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zoiks
Without getting in too deep tonight (my glass of scotch has more of my attention), you might start by checking different bible translations. Many versions refer to desolation as plural- desolations. Then check a good bible commentary on what these desolations may have referred to.
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"Millions Now Living Will Never Die" seal
by truthseeker ini thought this deserved it's own thread since some say the society never said stated that "millions now living will never die.".
i inherited a book that was published in 1917 entitled "what pastor russell said his answer to hundreds of questions".
inside the book on the first page is a red seal with the words "millions now living will never die".
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zoiks
Excellent find. Thanks!
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Just curious... how many on here first became JW by door to door work Vs raised in?
by Aussie Oz ini was raised in from about 10. mum contacted by door to door work.
oz.
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zoiks
Born in.
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Kingdom Song: "Stay Awake, Stand Firm, Grow Slightly"
by sd-7 in1. stay awake, stand firm, grow slightly.
in the warfare that is lies.
carry on with public doctrine.
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zoiks
Ha! There is a lot of untapped potential in those kingdom melodies
Good stuff.