I have always thought it was sad that people (who claimed to be family) and KNOW that Jehovah can read their hearts - no matter how much or little they did - would count people as a NUMBER (time in service...amount of publications sold...number of rv's)! It has never made a bit of sense to me because it's so impersonal. Corporate America recognizes people as 'numbers' - they don't care what your name is, how old you are, where you live or your personal situation. ALL they care about is how much money you make them! The society seems to be the same way...it's not about WHO you are, it's about how many hours and placements!
babygirl30
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The reporting of field service time
by lepermessiah inwere any of you really bothered/still bothered by the practice of field service reporting?.
there was an old post on here that got me thinking how the practice got started.. instead of simply being a tool to monitor the progress of the faith, or to see if the work was done "throughout the earth", it appears to me that it was just a tool used to keep the presses rolling and to see how much literature to produce - along with controlling the rank and file.
the average jw gives it no thought, its just another "blessing" from the organization when you hear the monthly reports, etc.. the organization is so statistics-driven that they make jesus out to be a ceo with people who need to meet their sales quotas.i'm sure he really wouldnt care if peter and andrew got 20 hours one month and john got 25. wait, maybe thats why john was "beloved" .
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Airing WT dirty laundry on shunning-need help
by fleshyheadedmutant ini am quandry.
i have been here since 1996, but can only post under my husband's name.
but that is not important.. my daughter has been df'd for five years, since she was sixteen.
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babygirl30
Being born in, it has been and always will be this 'sore' spot in my heart. My family and so-called friends continue to shun me (on a personal level) like I have some type of disease and need to be quarantined or something. To explain the shunning process to anyone outside the org, they inevitably find it ridiculous and just shake their heads in disagreement...yet to a JW, shunning IS the best way to convince a sinner that they NEED the 'protection' of the group. The day I was DF'd, it felt like the rug was ripped out from under me: after being assaulted and abused by my ex-JW fiance, I was NOW losing my 'friends' and also eventually my own family! Not that it hurts as much as it did over a year ago when this all happened, but seeing shunning for what it is - manipulation - makes it all MUCH clearer for me. The fact that the 'love' JWs preach to everyone can be shut off like a light switch after 1 single announcement (Babygirl30 is no longer a Jehovah's Witness) is abominable!
Thankfully I have really done my research, learned more about JWs then I ever thought I would (especially since I was raised one), and finding REAL friends outside the org has completely changed my life and my thinking process. I'm now GRATEFUL for being DF'd and having the need to find out why I was treated in such a way and forced to be shunned...but on the flip side, will always carry that little sore spot because NONE of the shunning makes sense.
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babygirl30
Work as a volunteer at the domestic violence coalition in my county...supporting women who have been abused.
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Finally Erased them OUT of my phone!
by babygirl30 init's been about going on 2yrs that i've been df'd and not even 1yr that i stopped going to the khall at all...but...i'm proud to say that as of last night i was going through my phone and decided that i needed to just cut out all those people that didn't matter anymore!
you know, the old jw 'friends' (use that term loosely) whose numbers i've held onto all this time and don't need anymore.
i mean, never going to bother with these people again.
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babygirl30
It's weird how 'matter-a-fact' the whole thing was! Last year I looked at those same names/numbers and thought 'OH...can't erase them, when I get reinstated I will definitely want to contact them' - hahahahahahaha. yeah RIGHT!!! Those people don't give a rats about ME and who I am NOW (not the good lil JW girl they wanted me to be) so they don't deserve anymore room on my SIM card. FUnny the difference a year AWAY from JWs makes in a life.
Case closed.
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The moment I knew it was crap....
by Brocephus inalready had doubts from the time i got pubes... but i was about 15 and we were studying the revelation "book" for the upteenth time.
i realized for every actual bible verse they qouted there was 2-3 paragraphs of conjecture, assumption, faulty logic and just plain stupidity.
that's when i began to plan my escape.
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babygirl30
All the explainations of the 144,000...1914...607BCE...Nissan 14...blood - NONE of it ever made sense! I am NOT the smartest at 'math' as it is, but to have an entire Watchtower study article on the breakdown of how the society came to those specific dates or decisions- it was all too much for me. Since when does a DATE or PRINCIPLE need that much explaining?????? UGH! I used to seriously tune out on those Sundays! -hahahaha
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Finally Erased them OUT of my phone!
by babygirl30 init's been about going on 2yrs that i've been df'd and not even 1yr that i stopped going to the khall at all...but...i'm proud to say that as of last night i was going through my phone and decided that i needed to just cut out all those people that didn't matter anymore!
you know, the old jw 'friends' (use that term loosely) whose numbers i've held onto all this time and don't need anymore.
i mean, never going to bother with these people again.
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babygirl30
It's been about going on 2yrs that I've been DF'd and not even 1yr that I stopped going to the Khall at all...but...I'm proud to say that as of last night I was going through my phone and decided that I needed to just CUT out all those people that didn't matter anymore! You know, the old JW 'friends' (use that term loosely) whose numbers I've held onto all this time and don't need anymore. I mean, NEVER going to bother with these people again. So, I erased em!!!!
Just feels good to say...thanks for letting me share.
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'Talks That Inspire' looking back at where my mind was, I wrote about the time at the convention "Godly Obedience".
by Butterflyleia85 inmy assignment was to write about a speach i heard that inspired me.
well being a jehovah's witness that was easy for we all had it three times a week then during our assembles and convention meetings.
written 12/11/2005.
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babygirl30
Girl...those are some SERIOUS convention notes there!!! Man, do I remember sitting there in a DAZE writing and writing and writing....just wasting paper and killin trees.
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Bethelite reverence
by Waffles inhave any of you had the experience of a bethelite brother visiting your kh?.
here's how it always seemed to go in my experience:.
there is a general kh-wide excitement in the air that a real, live bethelite rockstar is at the hall; overheard are numerous convo's featuring words like "o, he's a bethelite".. visiting brother bethelite gives the closing prayer and is immediately mobbed by adoring fans.. all the single sisters are on high alert, you can smell the estrogen in the air.
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babygirl30
I always called Bethelites "JW Athletes"...cause to me, they were treated EXACTLY the same! Sisters would gun for their attention (groupies)...they were included in all gatherings/plans (VIP clubs/parties)...people always want to be in their company and brag about it!
LOL! There was this one bethelite I recall that was N-O-T-H-I-N-G to blink about, but MAN did the ladies love him! Not only was he short (about 5'6") but he also walked around with a backpack on IN the cong (and out). Oh, and forget the fact that he makes it loud and clear that he is NOT looking to get married and dude was 42yr old (lifer at Bethel). He gave the 'special talk' at our cong and I swear, the sisters that showed UP sweatin this man like he was Jesus on a stick. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! He was a dork, and anyone that wanted his attention that badly had to be pretty pathetic since he didn't have a pot to piss in. Talk about a FULL Khall that day. You would've thought Jay-Z was there putting on a concert. Never understood what the big deal was with these guys...
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"Do not become unevenly yoked"--weird comment at meeting
by sd-7 ini heard a really bizarre comment at one of the recent meetings.
someone, in quoting this scripture, of course went with the usual doctrine of not marrying/dating someone who is not a jw.
but one woman took it even further, by saying that this applied even to people inside the congregation who 'weren't spiritual enough' or didn't have some magnificent spiritual goals in life.
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babygirl30
Just keep reminding yourself that it's all 'superficial'! They talk....yeah, we all know it. They gossip...it's part of being a JW. They make up crap and call it 'truth'...it is what it is. If you are handling your business at HOME - then you're not giving your wife any reason to question/doubt you. Ok? Keep your head up.
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Pot Calling the Kettle Black
by babygirl30 inreading another post on here about 'association' and how home jws brag about their accomplishments and how spiritually great they are, yet their lives are bull-ish and the 'fruit' they produce is fake as hell:.
a couple in my cong where the husband was gunning for 'elder' over the years and the wife regular pioneered.
he doesn't work claiming he is disabled (yet he can play basketball with the brothers every week) and has no pride - he will ask for money outright for whatever necessity they have.
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Their life has nothing to do with their spirituality
THAT is exactly what my mother used to burn in my head. That no matter HOW anyone acted in the cong, it wasn't their literal example we were to emmulate but their SPIRITUAL example!! Again....why? Their spiritual example was obviously a facade because if they truly were 'spiritually strong' they wouldn't BE acting the ass outside the Khall nor would they people a reason to doubt them and what they teach from the platform. So I can spit, cuss, fight, smoke, beat people up, and steal - but if my spiritual persona is CLEAR to all - then I'm good/ok?