Oh my God. Tales of the JW and Shameless (instead of Rich and Famous)! This whole thing sounds SO terrible that I don't even know what to say. Too many JWs are hypocritical (which I see you are learning in dealing with them)....
babygirl30
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So your telling me you can be an a**hole until you get bapitized, and other tales...
by Confuzzled inwithout launching into my saga, of which many of you already know, i have a jw baby daddy who besides being a jw is an emotional midget w/women issues....i continue to come here for support and info concerning the future of my infant and the quirks of the jw family & belief system at large, and what i will be dealing with in the future, bf or no bf, so this inquiry has nothing to do with my relationship with this person or lack-there-of, i'm just seeking answers to what seems puzzling.
my posts are lacking in any specific detail as to not alert any possible lurking done my boyfriend or his family members, call me paranoid but it sometimes the circumstances, should they be stumbled on, are far to unique for it to be anybody other then this person, or their family.. anyhoo, my non-baptized jw bf is mad at his mother, along with many of his brothers and sisters (he has a huge family).
mama, it turns out was never baptized, even though she has been a jw for as long as my boyfriend has been alive (almost 40 yrs).
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Most people who are not JW's live with out moral restrain! All who have left the "Truth" regret it. June 15th WT
by life is to short inin the june 15th wt it says on page 9 i will just write it out as it is to hard and unbelievable to preface this.
so here it is.. "many who today are members of the christian congregation can tell you that before learning of and adopting jehovah's righteous standards, they lived without moral restrain.
yet, they were unsatisfied and unhappy.
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babygirl30
This kind of teaching reminds me of that movie The Village - where the people were 'scared' repeatedly NOT to leave the 'village' otherwise the NOTHINGS would get them...
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Re-instatement
by hotspur incan anybody show me in any bible that, to be re-instated, i need to humiliate myself for at least 6 months?.
what's that all about?
in fact, that is high my list of 1001 reasons i'd never go back!.
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babygirl30
I'm right there with you!!!! The whole reinstatement process is the #1 gripe I have with this religion...NOWHERE in the Bible does it say 1 word about there being a JC committee of 3 elders, that once DF'd you are to sit quietly and annonymously in the back of the Khall, that your family and friends must SHUN you until the same JC deems you 'approved', that you have to write a letter pleading your case, and that there is a specific 'time' period someone is to sit out to show repentance. King David freakin committed the ultimate of crimes and sins, and HE was never shunned nor kicked off his throne. As I recall, the Bible says that Jehovah SENT the prophet to call David out, which led him to repent, and yeah he had consequences - but they didn't involve shunning and a period of being 'dead' to anyone. Same goes with the prodigal son.
My parents had been up my butt about coming back, and I flat out ASKED them to show me where my being shunned was IN the Bible and that 2 stories in the Bible of 'sinners' have NO corellation with how JWs do things now - none. I refuse to play the game with MEN, write some letter to them begging THEM to forgive me and deem me 'ok'....
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Cheating in the Congregation
by EXMS inhow often does anyone see cheating happening throughout the congregation?.
reason that i ask this is because it happened to me.
in this three years things seemed to go great.
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babygirl30
His EXMS!
Read your story and that is really sad...that 'pioneer' girl was NO example at all! But I have heard PLENTY of stories of bros/sis who are dating one person, mess around with another - then make the CHOICE between the 2. It's pathetic how OPEN a lot of them are about it too.
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Most people who are not JW's live with out moral restrain! All who have left the "Truth" regret it. June 15th WT
by life is to short inin the june 15th wt it says on page 9 i will just write it out as it is to hard and unbelievable to preface this.
so here it is.. "many who today are members of the christian congregation can tell you that before learning of and adopting jehovah's righteous standards, they lived without moral restrain.
yet, they were unsatisfied and unhappy.
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babygirl30
Either this girl in the WT story didn't have the smarts to spend $5 on some freakin birth control, or she had absolutely NO damn common sense! I mean - come on...pregnant AND an abortion? Give me a break! The thing that bothers me most about stories like that in the mags is that they 'demonize' any life outside of the org! Making it seem like EVERY person that walks away is going to be miserable, get knocked up, get AIDS/Hepatitis and Cancer, smoke crack and drink alcohol till vodka sweats out their pores, and nobody is going to love them.
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Family Worship Night
by cantleave inthe circuit overseer's elders meeting i attended just under a year ago, talked a great deal about the family worship evening.
one of the things that came out was that each family head should get a visit from an elder, in order to encourage this essential spiritual activity.. as i have since faded i was wondering if the elders really did do this?
my experience is that shepherding calls are never really done unless someone has done something worthy of a jc.. so here's my question for all you guys and gals that still suffer meetings, have you had a visit from your group overseer, specifically encouraging you to make the most of family worship?.
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Family Worship Night......what can I say? The 'description' of it CHANGED from when the org announcement was made to what they SAY it is about now. I was still 'in' when this arrangement was changed, and when they first laid this out to the cong, it was with the whole explaination of how gas was skyrocketing (it was over $3/gal here on the east coast), things were more expensive, it was becoming a stress on the cong - so they were combining the mtgs and leaving a FWN for families to use to be 'together'.
NOW when they describe FWN, they vehemently DENY that its for economic reason - but that it's solely for families to have a Bible study together.
FUNNY...how things change!
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im so worried about my daughter ,need some advice please !
by looloo inmy daughter was abused by an ex min servant age 13 , she is now 22 and has been with her loving caring boyfriend for a year (he is her 1st boyfriend ) over the years she has been bulimic ,self harmed and suffered low self esteem , i thought she had got better since the relationship with her boyfriend started , i found out yesterday that she is no better at all and im frightened for her , her boyfriend said "that bastard haunts her" she suffers flashbacks and post traumatis stress disorder , due to the horrific things the abuser did and said to her , which i cant bare to go into detail about as i try to block it out my mind , unfortunatly my poor girl cannot !
she has had a lot of help by a psyciatrist , counsellor etc but is no better so what can i do to help ?
have any of you been in this situation ?
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babygirl30
Hi! I read your post and really FELT your pain...and it gave me 'flashbacks' to what had happened to me.
I was engaged to marry an abusive JW who was an acoholic. His family knew about his behavior and made 'light' of it, and to this day my ex has YET to take responsibility for what he did to me. With all the legal documents proving him guilty - he still has never admitted guilt and continues to claim nothing happened, claims I am crazy and just want him back, and told the judge IN court during the trial that I made everything up! So trust me, that pain was unexplainable because after 2yrs of this man demeaning and attacking me...for him to deny it all and to go on living his life in 'peace' made me angry. I found a psychologist, a psychiatrist, and a support group quickly! Thing is, I was determined to GET WELL and that was the best attitude to have...but it was NOT EASY!!!! It took hard work, and a lot of soul searching. I had to vividly recall memories of what happened to me on a regular basis, I had to follow the direction of the psychologist, I had to learn how to not be angry anymore, I had to accept that what happened was not my fault and then I had to stop concentrating on 'him' and what he did and start concentrating on ME and getting myself better.
To your daughter, I offer hugs and LOTS of understanding. But the main part of recovering from abuse is cognitive therapy, group support, and will power. Now I know...'will power' sounds like it's small but THAT is what will get her to where she wants to be. Remember that in lieu of the abuse, she has to deal with the fact that the abuser was someone she was supposed to be able to trust - a JW - and so the religious aspect plays a roll in it all too. If she wants to feel better and wants to be able to deal with her situation, then she will search for the help that is the best fit for HER. I wish you both the best. PM me if you want to chat!!
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Dancing with some JW friends tonight
by jwfacts ini was walking past a bar tonight and recongised some old jw friends inside dancing to a live band.
i went in an attached myself to them and spent the night with them.
it was quite funny as they were very comfortable with me but also exuded unsure guilt about the whole situation.. it seems to stress jws when we seem exactly the same as before.
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babygirl30
I actually LIKE running into JWs now...granted they don't speak, but I enjoy their faces when they see me! I'm not knocked up with some dudes illegitimate baby...I'm not smoking cigs...am not fat and sloppy with some bum of a man at my side! -hahahha. If anything, my look has improved (because I FEEL a lot less stress) and my man is a cutie. So I hold my head up HIGH and actually am now comfortable smiling at them
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The point in time when I realised that I would one day no longer be a Jehovahs Witness
by jambon1 inthis was after my 'honeymoon' period of being a new jw.
yet, it was still a couple of years before i actually left.. i remember sitting in the kh listening to the meeting & my mind wandered.
i started looking around the congregation.
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babygirl30
I was on 'autopilot' when I was a JW...born in, did as I was told, followed what was expected of me (superficially of course), and kept up appearances. It wasn't until I was DF'd and was able to sit unbothered that things became so much clearer! It's like I suddenly began to LISTEN to the mtgs and was able to reason that what was being said was NOT the full story...I also began to OBSERVE people a lot closer in the cong and I picked up on a lot: the family that had transplanted to the Khall had 3 pioneer daughters that were FAST asses (saw them in the club)...the MS that is abusive to his wife but plays 'nice' at the Khall...the elder that has such a BAD reputation that he gets moved from cong to cong cause of reports of his irresponsible behavior...the reg pioneer that has serious mental issues...the elders wife who REFUSES to sit with her husband at the mtg - that is IF she even comes! Add to all of that, the fact that I was cruelly treated and dealt with by elders who were supposed to act lovingly and be reassuring of Jehovah's love - and I had enough. 9 mos of observing all that crap and carrying all these feelings of disgust, and I had enough.
One thing after another that just woke me UP.
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Why do even inactive Jw's play the shunning game?
by AK - Jeff ini have contacted a half dozen people thru facebook.
all of these people i have known for 2 decades, most more than that.
in every case, i have not been overly apostate in my statements - just a simple hi, hello, and how ya' doin' type message to them in private.. nearly all of them fall into one of two categories: never been a jw, just studied, maybe attended meetings for a while, likely not doing so nowadays.
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I personally feel they DO that because it's easier to SHUN shomeone that is actually 'marked' or officially DF'd/DA'd - then for the inactive person (who is shunning) to LOOK in a mirror and admit that they themselves are just as f*cked up as the next person!
I actually work with 2 fleshly sisters who are and have been inactive for YEARS!!! These woman are both baptized, and both were well liked in the org, but chose to fall away and live their lives - which is fine. Both have dated, shacked up with, and formally MARRIED non-JWs...all public knowledge of their JW families AND also an elder and his pioneer wife who are VERY close to this entire family. Nobody shuns these women when they are are out and about showing off their husbands and haven't set foot in a Khall for years....the elder/pioneer wife have dinner parties and OPENLY celebrate anniversaries/dinners/and births WITH these baptized inactive sisters, and yet I am DF'd and spoke in passing to BOTH of these 'sisters' at work and both of them acted 'put off' by our conversation!!!! I didn't talk about Biblical things, I didn't talk about what I went through, and I didn't even go into Khall 'talk'...it was simple Hi How are you doing? type of thing. Now when I see them, they shuttle past me barely lifting their heads to say a WORD - and I find it ironic purely because these women are no better then I am. Only difference is that I was woman enough to stand up and take what was dealt to me....
