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  Elders Call Off Meetings A Lot More Easily Than They Did Before For Inclement Weather

  by minimus in

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  the meetings were cancelled in this area with only 2 inches of snow for the "storm''.

  lol.

  a month ago the co had the meeting cancelled because it was a bit tracherous, which i thought was a good call..... years`ago, if we cancelled a meeting it took until one hour before the presiding overseer would finally decide to cancel.. today's jws are wimps..

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  JeffT

  In May 1980 when Mt. St. Helens blew, we lived in Pullman, about two hundred miles downwind. We ended up with eight tons of ash per acre. Everything was tied up for days, all the legal authorities were telling everyone to limit travel to necessary business. The highways were closed to everything except emergency traffic.

  The local elders called Brooklyn to get permission to cancel the meetings, at least that is what I was told when I got the phone call. You'd common sense would have been all they needed, but I guess that's asking too much.
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  This is a good example of the Watchtower's sloppy research efforts. "Those About to Die" is, at best, a secondary source with some problems. If it has footnotes, the person writing the Watchtower article should have gone to that source and quoted it. If "Those About to Die" is not footnoted it shouldn't be quoted at all. At least not by something purporting to provide scholarly research.
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  THIS NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD:: TODAY's WT Paragraph 16

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  here is what got my spidey senses tingling: paragraph 16, reference to daniel p mannix book, was wondering if his statement was mis-quoted so i did my research.......but was even more shocked when i saw this: .

  from amazon dot com reviews................ probably the most provocative work of historical fiction published this century,"those who are about to die" is pure mannix at his best.

  a uncensured exploration of what likely took place in the circuses of ancient rome.

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  JeffT

  I'm doing some research, I'll report back when I know more. I can't find a reference to his college degrees (if any).

  And check this out:

  http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Daniel_P._Mannix

  Edited to add

  Here's a review from a retired attorney and writer. While this book may not qualify as "fiction" I don't think it qualifies as a source of materiel for a serious article.

  http://www.amazon.com/The-Way-Gladiator-Daniel-Mannix/dp/0743413032
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  WT Society holds EXTREME Responsibility for 1975 and False Expectations

  by flipper in

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  however- many jw's who have come into the jw organization from like 1985 forward virtually may have no knowledge of the wt society's 1975 debacle and false predictions of the end times or armageddon predictions.

  just like in in the book 1984 by george orwell the wt society has a way of not only erasing it's history so no newer witnesses will be aware of their false predictions, but also they are re-writing their history as if those false predictions never happened.. so for those of you here who may have never read or heard of how whipped up into an emotional frenzy witnesses were in the years just before 1975 by the wt society claiming the end was any day now- this threads for you.

  to see the pressure that was put on jw's by the wt society to get rid of everything before " armageddon " .

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  I started a regular Bible study with the witnesses in the spring of 1973, I graduated from college in August and I was baptized in November. Everything was push, push, push 1975. Datadog nailed it, the society never once attempted to put the brakes on it.

  I remember the International Assembly in Vancouver BC vividly as it was the first such thing I'd been to. They had a very lengthy drama about the fall of Jericho. Right after that the released a new tract that we would be handing out in the fall in a sort of lightening campaign. They also said that there would be others at regular intervals. That night in conversation with several dubs a certain Sister N___ said that if we did one of these every three months and we did seven of the them the last one would be in the fall of 1975.

  Fast forward to 1988 as my wife and I are getting ready to leave. This sister and her husband visit us (we'd moved across the state) we got to talking about some stuff and I brought this up without mentioning names. Sister N___ says "oh nobody ever said anything like that."
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  Are Peeps for True Christians?

  by rebel8 in

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  with appreciation of the "are cats for true christians?

  " people.... are peeps for true christians?.

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  Those things are gross.
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  Former Jehovah's Witnesses, will Jesus destroy all JW's when he comes to the Earth?

  by Change Name in

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  what do you believe happens when one of jehovah's witnesses dies?

  do they go to hell?.

  if you do not respond, does it mean that you are only looking to discredit and bash the jw's?.

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  They will all ride to safety on unicorns? Hell, I don't know, neither does anybody else including the men on the governing body.
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  I've launched a blog

  by JeffT in

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  only one post at the moment, that should change in the next couple of days.

  i will mostly be writing about writing and the religious and historical backgrounds to my novels.. .

  http://pathologicallyintellectual.blogspot.com/.

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  Only one post at the moment, that should change in the next couple of days. I will mostly be writing about writing and the religious and historical backgrounds to my novels.

  http://pathologicallyintellectual.blogspot.com/

  If anybody knows how to add a comment button on google blogger I want to do that and can't find it.
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  A question for those that have been around this board for a long time

  by JeffT in

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  my wife and i stopped going to meetings in 1988 and da'd in 1989. for a few years we both actively participated in the xjw world, she quit doing that a long time ago, and has pretty much completely moved on.

  the other night i told her about my planned blog (which will probably launch this weekend) it will mostly be about my writing, a lot of which is mostly about jw related issues.

  she asked why i am still so drawn to this subject.

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  Thanks all. I have my own answer to this queston, which will appear on the blog when it's fully up. I was curious what others would say.
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  May Watchtower makes the same mistake Moses did

  by leaving_quietly in

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  probably not the first time this has happened, but the w13 5/15 at least twice made the same mistake that got moses killed by god.. p.8 par.

  2: "with heartfelt zeal, we invite "anyone that wishes [to] take life's water free.

  " (rev 22:17).

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  JeffT

  I've been saying for some time that the GB words and actions are blasphemous. They claim Biblical authority, that if you believe the Bible, is not theirs to claim. It's like me claiming the Russian Constitution says I'm the President of Russia. I have an article about it on Freeminds.
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  A question for those that have been around this board for a long time

  by JeffT in

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  my wife and i stopped going to meetings in 1988 and da'd in 1989. for a few years we both actively participated in the xjw world, she quit doing that a long time ago, and has pretty much completely moved on.

  the other night i told her about my planned blog (which will probably launch this weekend) it will mostly be about my writing, a lot of which is mostly about jw related issues.

  she asked why i am still so drawn to this subject.

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  JeffT

  My wife and I stopped going to meetings in 1988 and DA'd in 1989. For a few years we both actively participated in the xjw world, she quit doing that a long time ago, and has pretty much completely moved on. The other night I told her about my planned blog (which will probably launch this weekend) it will mostly be about my writing, a lot of which is mostly about JW related issues. She asked why I am still so drawn to this subject. I have my answer, but I'm curious what some of you (Blondie? Simon?) who have been doing this for a long time would say to this.