we've been getting texts from our daughter all morning.
flash flooding is making a real mess of the front range, we're watching the weather channel and the streets in boulder look like rivers.
daughter is standing by for evacuation orders, not sure where they're going to take her or how - probably ng vehicles.. i'll post more if i hear anything dramatic..
We've been getting texts from our daughter all morning. Flash flooding is making a real mess of the Front Range, we're watching the weather channel and the streets in Boulder look like rivers. Daughter is standing by for evacuation orders, not sure where they're going to take her or how - probably NG vehicles.
I'll post more if I hear anything dramatic.
i know there's been topics previously but how in the world do athiests do the program when they don't use as their support the higher power heard they can use the group, the ocean, etc., but seriously!
my friend told me they recommend god as the higher power for the program to work in some literature.
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JeffT: Where can I get me some of that stuff?
Go back to the Kingdom Hall, that will kill a bunch of brain cells. Although the log might make better conversation.
i know there's been topics previously but how in the world do athiests do the program when they don't use as their support the higher power heard they can use the group, the ocean, etc., but seriously!
my friend told me they recommend god as the higher power for the program to work in some literature.
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An atheist friend in one of the groups I attend once said that praying seems absolutely rational in comparison to spending an afternoon high and talking to a log on a beach.
i was very young back then, and can remember telling everyone at school, family, and all my worldly friends that the world would end in just another year.
now after reading the latest july wt, and reviewing all the updates, i can't help but wonder what effect i would have if i told members of my faith that armeggeddon, wouldn't come that year.
the fds has two appointments, 1st in 1919, and then 2nd after the gt.
If, only I could go back in time, but what good would that of done?
None. They would have DF'd you so fast your head would spin.
what do you think would be the result if we go the u.s goes thorough striking syria?
i fear that it will drag the u.s into a vietnam like situation and this will hurt our economy..
Attempts to start "limited" wars frequently don't work out well. The Austro-Hungarian Empire planned a war limited to spanking Serbia for the assination of Archduke Ferdinand. Four years and sixteen million dead later the Empire didn't exist anymore. Japan planned on a fast war with the United States. Both sides figured they could end the Civil War with one good battle.
i think they know what they don't believe in, like no blood, no hellfire, no trinity....but they really couldn't explain what their beliefs are and why they believe as they do.
do you agree?
No, they don't. A few years ago a couple of guys came by (I think they were elders) and they were clueless on the mediator issue. I looking for a chance to ask one about the generation change.
a very dear friend's husband is going to aa and has been successfully clean for a year now.
he has attributed his success to aa.
we are all very excited about his sobriety.
maybe he's the one who had the key to the door
quite possibly. That guy and the guy who make the coffee are the really important ones, although if they don't show up you can meet in the parking lot. Or the coffee shop down the street.
FYI, I'm sixty-two, the 29th marked eight years of sobriety and involvement in AA.
a very dear friend's husband is going to aa and has been successfully clean for a year now.
he has attributed his success to aa.
we are all very excited about his sobriety.
Shirley, it's not a matter of terminology. AA does not have people who lead or people who consel, no matter what you call them. The meeting secretary does nothing more than get the meeting started on time, introduce the chairman and handle a few announcements. Most groups rotate the position every three months. The chairman is a different person every week, just a speaker who talks about their own experience for ten minutes or so to get the meeting going, and then calls on members of the group to share their own thoughts.
The group itself is run by the consensus of its members. Every group is autonomous and free to run its own affairs within very broad guidelines. Which is why I tell people not to judge AA by one group. If you don't like one, go to another one; they can be very different. There are also meetings just for men or women, and specifically LGBT friendly meetings. Many of us have problems unique to some background of our own.
Was your friends husband a licensed counselor? He might have been leading a support group seperate from AA. Or he could have been a sponsor, although that only involves helping one person who has asked for his help in gaining sobriety. A sponsor only has no authority, he can only make suggestions, and the sponsee is free to pick somebody else anytime he wants. I had three my first year of sobriety and we're all still good friends. It's also possible that he was meeting with several sponcees at once (not usually pracitce, but done sometimes just to get everybody together). If so that was not an AA meeting.
a very dear friend's husband is going to aa and has been successfully clean for a year now.
he has attributed his success to aa.
we are all very excited about his sobriety.
Sigh.
AA saved my life, my marriage and my relationship with my family. If you don't like it, don't go. Keep drinking if you want, we don't care. Nobody has any monetary incentive in AA, I've been involved in several groups and after we paid rent on the hall and bought our coffee there wasn't anything left. And all of us tried to quit and haven't been able to do it on our own. There is a significant genetic factor to the disease. Our bodies process alchohol and other addictive drugs differently from normal people. If you are not an addict you quite literaly cannot understand what it is we go through.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2442454/
Shirley, nobody leads an AA group.
Nathan, being on the road can make it very tempting to drink. Looking up the local group is likely to help.
PS I've read that article several times. It reads like a Watctower article about why catholics are wrong or some such. If I felt like expending the time and energy I could make that say JWN is a cult. Speaking of time and energy, who is A. Orange and why does he/she/it have such a hard-on for AA?
your mission... should you choose to accept it, will be to find all checker floors in the watchtower publications, especially those involving worship.. .
if you can upload them here, great.
i don't know to upload a pic from my computer on this site.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/quick-history-checkerboard-flo-136019
first thing that showed up on a google search for "history of checkered floors." I think Solomon's temple had a checkered floor. That predates Freemasons by about two thousand years.
