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  Smuggling

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the international assemblies are on... and the missionaries are coming home... and leaving richer.. i have, in all seriousness, been told by a co that the missionaries going home have large sums of money hidden in their luggage as they go back to their assignments.

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  he related how one couple was almost caught with the undeclared cash as they passed through customs.. this has been going on for quite some time, the watchtower using missionaries are mules.. i bet with all the kingdumb hall sales the pace has picked up..

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  JeffT

  OK, so what is the purpose of hauling suitcases of money around the world?
  
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  Smuggling

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the international assemblies are on... and the missionaries are coming home... and leaving richer.. i have, in all seriousness, been told by a co that the missionaries going home have large sums of money hidden in their luggage as they go back to their assignments.

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  he related how one couple was almost caught with the undeclared cash as they passed through customs.. this has been going on for quite some time, the watchtower using missionaries are mules.. i bet with all the kingdumb hall sales the pace has picked up..

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  No I think its a false narrative because I'm a retired accountant and financial manager. I have no doubt some CO told you this story. I have lots of doubts that he knows what he's talking about.

  The described activities are not money laundering. Money laundering is used to disguise the fact that money is made illegally and/or to avoid taxes. What illegal activity is the WTBS engaged in that requires hiding the proceeds? Selling Kingdom halls is not illegal, its also impossible to hide the money since its a publically recorded transaction. The WTBS is a religious organization, as such it doesn't pay taxes on most activities, so they don't need to do that either.
  

  As I said, they could loose everything, why take the chance? I don't see a reward that justifies the risk of moving money around clandestinly. If I was on the GB and wanted to hide money earned from some nefarious activity (the definition of "money laundering", I'd just have somebody dump it in the donation boxes at a convention. It then becomes "cash donations" and its clean as a whistle.
  
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  Smuggling

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the international assemblies are on... and the missionaries are coming home... and leaving richer.. i have, in all seriousness, been told by a co that the missionaries going home have large sums of money hidden in their luggage as they go back to their assignments.

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  he related how one couple was almost caught with the undeclared cash as they passed through customs.. this has been going on for quite some time, the watchtower using missionaries are mules.. i bet with all the kingdumb hall sales the pace has picked up..

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  I am disinclined to believe this for a simple reason: I can think of no good reason for the Watchtower to undertake this much risk. I know somebody is going to say they are laundering money from Kingdom Hall sales or hiding it from lawyers. Neither of those things are workable ideas. At some point the lawyers are going to start filing liens against Watchtower properties if they can't get their money any other way. And if they are laundering money, the government can seize Warwick through civil forfeiture.
  
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  Anyone drop out of high school or not focus on grades becuase the end was near

  by rockemsockem in

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  2. beliefs

  i dropped out with 3 months left to go of the 12th grade.

  my uncle offed me a job and the end was only a few years away.

  my mother even though she was dyed in the wool at the time said she would only go along with it if i took a correspondence course out of american correspondence school out of chicago.

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  I became a witness about the time I was graduating from college. I was accepted at grad school and could have gotten a Master's degree in Education but passed it up because the end was two years away (1975). Nine years later I got smart and went back to school to study business. I was an XJW five years later.
  
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  NBA Player Retires to Serve as Jehovah's Witness

  by 720Reddog in

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  2. friends

  https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27078092/collison-retires-nba-31-focus-faith .

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  And fifty years from now, he can die still waiting for Armageddon and wishing he'd taken the money.
  
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  STOP treating Watchtower Bible & Tract SOCIETY as a RELIGION

  by Nathan R. Koppe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "the watchtower society is not a religious society for 👥 public worship, such as a ⛪️ church, but is a 💲 business corporation..."

  ➡️ please use and demonstrate this if you are involved in any legal action, it's not about religious rights and freedom, this is where they are 'fooling' their followers and authorities❗️

  ➡️ the purpose of disfellowshipping, disassociating and shunning are 'legalistic and pharisaical tricks' to 'name and shame' anyone asking (the right) questions about it's biblical teachings (aka) doctrines, (abuse) policies and the real truth about the 'truth' (aka apostate)❗️

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  Sorry, your posts are too long, rambling, incoherent and the links don't work. You may have good ideas and information, but the presentation needs serious work.
  
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  Do Celebrities Influence You In Making Your Decisions?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  whether it be sports athletes or hollywood heavyweights or talk show hosts—do these people influence your thinking?.

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  Robert A. Heinlein said if you're not sure what to do, find some well meaning idiot (there's always one around) ask them what they'd do, then do the exact opposite.

  With the celebreties, you don't have to ask, they broadcast their idiocy all the time whether we want it or not.
  
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  What is the biggest doctrinal mistake made by the Watchtower /JWorg. ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  personally i think it is 1914 and the following " this generation " doctrine.. this particular doctrine went right against jesus's own words of " no one knows of the time not even he " .

  he also admonished his true followers to not set a time upon god's own sacred time .. the leaders of the wts even back to the late 1800's set a time calculated on their own theology 1874 being the first time set and proclaimed by c t russell, also proclaiming 1914 would likely be the year of the final day of judgment armageddon.

  all throughout the 20th century the wts held to this doctrine but was eventually revised of course when it was realized this generation had passed away who saw the events of 1914. .

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  The biggest doctrinal mistake is their insistence that "God has an organization and we're it." Everything else flows from there.
  
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  Window Washers

  by Nikki collins in

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  i know @hiddenpimo is going to laugh at me for this because we had several in our old congregation, but what is with all the window washing businesses owned/managed by jws???

  they are everywhere!

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  My first congregation was located in Pullman, WA. Pullman is a small college town, if you take away Washington State University, there's nothing there. Several brothers were trying to pioneer and make money as janitors/window washers. Because of the nature of the town the only way any of them could make more was to steal business from somebody else in the congregation. It frequently caused bitterness and divisions.

  I have a BA from WSU in English, and a diploma in accounting from a private vocational school. I had a pretty good career as an accountant. I've made a grand total of $900 as a writer, although I hope to have a book out this fall. Who knows I might push my life time total from the English degree over the $1000 mark.
  
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  Can We Sue The Watchtower For Mental and Emotional Harm Do To Its Mind Control Techniques

  by Humphry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think there is enough information available for a case to be made of the type of emotional and mental harm one is exposed to.

  get some good expert witnesses could work??

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  I smart lawyer would cite the fact that we're all here as proof that WTBS doesn't control people's minds. Those that don't like being part of the religion can, obviously, leave if they want to.