I loved giving Public Talks but hated being chairman. I really despised saying public prayers.
Posts by nugget
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23Brothers, did you like being asked to say a prayer?
by sacolton ini dreaded it!
i've seen brothers freeze-up doing prayers with long uncomfortable silences to think of what to say.
sometimes my mind would just go blank and i would panic at the thought if i paused.
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A JW wants to "friend me" on Facebook
by darthfader inmy wife and i have been quietly going about our fade for about 10 years.
now i'm getting old jw friend requests on facebook.
i used to be pretty close with them, but havent done anything with them for years.
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nugget
My facebook is now so incriminating I can't afford to have any witness friends. Don't do it. If they were friends they will call and visit.
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Why can't the WTS handle the truth on why people really leave the organization?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat do you think are the reasons why the wts can't handle the truth on why members quit?
why must they disfellowship everyone who would say something like this to an elder on why he/she no longer wishes to be a member......................................................................................................... '' i do not want to be a member any longer because of the changing ''generation'' teaching,the wts is just a publishing and real estate corporation,the preaching work is just a means to distribute books and magazines,the baptism and disfellowshipping of teenagers is wrong,the meetings are boring,the meetings are repetative, the 144,000 is symbolic not literal ...etc.....etc.....
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nugget
It doesn't sound good to say they left because it was a lie. That would make the muppets left behind thinking
a lie? really which bit?
All of it?
No not all of it surely.
Yep the whole 9 yards?
Not the resurrection. The resurrection isn't a lie?
Yes the resurrection is a lie.
1914, that's still true.
No lie.
144,000
Lie
Paradise
Lie
New world Translation best translation on Earth?
Not a hope.
Any of it true?
No
So that's why they left?
Yes Not of our sort.
what sort is that?
Gullible.
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Why Do Women Like Men With Hard,Tanned (cough, cough) Bodies ...
by snowbird inas opposed to soft, pale bodies?.
thanks for the inspiration, minimus.
sylvia.
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nugget
I have asked this question sooooo many times.
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CO visit comments: Facebook & new "generation" teaching
by sir82 injust a couple more gems from the recent co visit:.
in his meeting with elders / ms, he was warning of the "dangers" of the internet.
following is a more or less accurate quotation:.
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nugget
If the organisation allowed it's members to be adults they would be able to negotiate their way through facebook and other internet sites without falling into sin. It is precisely because the congregation is kept as permanent children they are not allowed to use these sites.
Did not the Bible encourage Christians to press on to maturity. The society states that this is achieved by never doing anything that isn't meeting and service oriented. This is not maturity being a grown up is the ability to function in the world and interact successfully with others without causing harm.
The generation thing is smart it causes people to think that perhaps they didn't look at the earlier article in enough detail. This isn't a change in thought at all, you just didn't get it the first time around. Typical tactic and very disingenuous.
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Iam no longer an ex-jehovers witness
by acolytes inmatter of fact being bottled to belonging or having belonged to anything seems silly.. iam me.. even my aviator is a mask (acolytes).
iam michael pykett.
(where iam going .......(iam on the ride).
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nugget
Well done a real break through. You give us hope of normalcy thank you.
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Did you get token invites to witness gatherings?
by truthseeker ini was pretty much a loner the whole time i was in my old congregation, and it wasn't for lack of young people - there were plenty of "young ones", but because of various situations that went unchecked, rumors and just plain nastiness, i did not have any friends.. some of you might relate to this.
you feel like you don't fit in either camp - the world and the congregation - a rock in a hard place.. on the rare occasion i did get a token invite to a jw gathering, it was usually a video evening, as we called them in the uk.
since i had no social life to speak of, i would attend these rare and "exciting" events but it was always a let down.. you see, unless you have shared history with these folks, it's pretty much a non event.
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nugget
To give you a clue how rarely we were invited anywhere, once a wealthy brother and his wife asked us round their house for dinner and we assumed they wanted us to babysit for them since they rarely spoke to us at the meetings.
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Feeling down
by tec inmy son got suspended from school for fighting.
not just fighting but choking another boy during their fight.
he started it in anger over something the other boy did, but none of that actually matters.
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nugget
You are both going through a particularly tough time. Bullying is a tough break and can affect a person in very profound ways. No one wants to be a victim. It is not uncommon for victims to become bullies because they have experienced first hand how bullies get affirmation and esteem through intimidation of others.
Bullying also creates suppressed rage so the first thing is that your son is not irredeemable or abnormal for behaving the way he does. Bullying takes what you are and knocks it down brick by brick until you are left with nothing. He needs to rebuild himself again, to rediscover his pride and self esteem. He needs to find a way to control the rage and find ways of getting rid of frustration in safe ways all this you already know. Counselling is essential and you are right to say that you intend to treat it seriously and work at it properly. Does he have a skill or an interest that he can pursue and increase his ability or a sport he wants to take up? These are great at giving him something he can build on. Affirmations can be good too although they can be considered cheesy. If you start each day by telling him something about him that makes you proud or happy it sets him up in a positive mind set. If he dissappoints you then tell him that you are dissappointed but tell him you feel this way because you know he is so much better than that.
People say give a dog a bad name and shoot it to imply that things can be self fulfilling. If you are used to hearing negative things about yourself you will believe them and live down to them, the same is true about positive things.
You love your son and that is the best foundation on which to build. I hope he gets the breaks he needs he sounds like a great kid who is trying to deal with an adult sized problem.
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Did you get token invites to witness gatherings?
by truthseeker ini was pretty much a loner the whole time i was in my old congregation, and it wasn't for lack of young people - there were plenty of "young ones", but because of various situations that went unchecked, rumors and just plain nastiness, i did not have any friends.. some of you might relate to this.
you feel like you don't fit in either camp - the world and the congregation - a rock in a hard place.. on the rare occasion i did get a token invite to a jw gathering, it was usually a video evening, as we called them in the uk.
since i had no social life to speak of, i would attend these rare and "exciting" events but it was always a let down.. you see, unless you have shared history with these folks, it's pretty much a non event.
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nugget
In or old congregation we felt we fitted in and were part of a brotherhood, we didn't have the children and although our social life was not manic it was pleasant.
Our last congregation was bizarre there were cliques and although there were congregation socials bi annually we were rarely invited to anything other than these. We were asked to be make up guests at a couple of big weddings but as soon as the children arrived we lost any claim to a social invite that didn't incorporate play dates for the children.
I had 2 good mum friends and we did arrange for play dates with the children and they understood the problems with babysitters so we did socialise and gave the children opportunities to play together during the school holidays.
It could be argued that we could have chosen to be more proactive ourselves, we did host get togethers for small numbers but the society really doesn't approve of too much socialising anyway. I've actually been more sociable since leaving the organisation although I have now lost any babysitters I once had.
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How Do People Like Sir 82 & Others Who Are Active JWs Do It ???
by minimus ini appreciate any who tell us what the latest co's talk is about or what was said at the meetings.
i just don't know how you can do it.
knowing that the "truth" is false and even laughable, it boggles my mind that you can still go, listen to the spiritual bullshit and maintain.. how do you do it?.
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nugget
Can't go I just can't do it any more. I also find I have less interest in what the org publishes I no longer care except in how it affects others.
I am finding that the witnesses have less relevance in my life and I think that is a good thing.
I also find that the literature contradicts itself giving me a right headache. Try reading the come be my follower book juxtaposed with the thought that Jesus is only the mediator for the 144,000 and it makes no sense.
I wouldn't go anywhere else I hate.