Posts by nugget

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"You knew what the consequences were when YOU decided to leave The Truth. This is YOUR decision and the outcome is YOUR responsibility."

by nicolaou in

how many of us have had to deal with a version of that retort?!

it's hurtful and i suspect - for some - that's partly because of the nagging feeling that our families may have a point.. but do they?.

i was 15 when i got baptised, is it reasonable that as the 50 year old man i'll be on my next birthday i continue to be held to a decision i made as a schoolboy?.

nugget

When I prepared for my baptism there were few questions on disfellowshipping and none on apostacy. There were no questions on the need to cut off family members or the possibility that I may have a change in viewpoint. None of us were told about the dangers of changing our mind when we made our commitment, nor were we asked to reaffirm our baptism each time they changed the doctrines or the questions.

To my point of view the organisation I thought I joined was not the same organistion I left behind and they have no justification to cut me off from friends and family.

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WTS .......A Slow Motion Train Wreck....

by Narcissistic Supply in

two years ago this site was very intolerant.

you couldn't even say the word cult.. a lot has changed.

there is a lot of anger here.

nugget

I feel any fall will be glacial in it's speed. They have done well keeping the workers busy and stressing the need for obedience no matter what.

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I have been asked to submit work for next year's open studio exhibit

by nugget in

my husband showed some of my work to artists exhibiting in this years open studio event and i have been asked to submit work for next year.

as soon as the children go back to school i will be busy with the isograph pens.

as a witness i gave up my art studies and my dream of fine art because it was not appropriate for a witness.

nugget

My husband showed some of my work to artists exhibiting in this years open studio event and I have been asked to submit work for next year. As soon as the children go back to school I will be busy with the isograph pens. As a witness I gave up my art studies and my dream of fine art because it was not appropriate for a witness. I am so pleased to be able to have the freedom to explore this again and see how my work fares in the big wide world.

I am looking for wildlife and nature subjects so any suggestions would be gratefully received. Will be sending hubby out to take photos this weekend.

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Looking for advice

by Liveandlearn in

jw
friends

hello, i've finally been approved here so it's time for my first post.

i got disfellowshipped a few months ago as i was unrepentant in my judicial.

i'd lived with a situtation for a long time.

nugget

your post concerns me a little. You have been df'd and are in a relationship with a non witness. You are still in a relationship but attending meetings with the hope of being reinstated in order to associate with friends and family.

Your relationship status if discovered will prevent you being reinstated. I have to ask how fair is it to be in a relationship with someone knowing that you will have to throw them under the bus to achieve your reinstatement objective. How does your partner feel about you going back into an organisation where they will not be considered as important or relevent? I personally would be reluctant to bring another person into this mess until you knew exactly how things are likely to pan out.

It is good to be confident but sometimes you cannot have everything your own way and you need to take the feelings of others into account.

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Now I'm not a JW, is it ok for me to...

by Julia Orwell in

jw
friends

...drink a lot?

gosh i love wine.

i like a good bottle of wine each night, and i have a high tolerance to alcohol, though i never drank much (except for a couple of times with the vodka, but i don't keep that stuff in the house anymore, way too dangerous) as a jw because getting slightly happy is a 'sin'.

nugget

You are a grown up and have the authority to make your own decisions and choices. you know when you have drunk too much or been drinking too often and what you want to do.

Drinking decent wine on a Sunday afternoon seems like a civilised way to spend the afternoon to me. Having to keep two steps ahead of the kids coupled with low tolerance to alcohol prevents me from joining you.

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disfellowshipping untruths

by wallievase in

if the whole disfellowshipping arrangement is from the bible, where are the scriptures that say you can appeal decisions or that if you are reproved what 'privileges' can be taken away?

or what about the fact that any offense they want can be lumped under uncleanness and used to kick you out?.

nugget

Brazen conduct is a much more pernicious catch all now and often cruely misapplied. There is not scripture that supports it since it is a set of rules dreamt up by men. This is why the shepherd book has so many chapters on the subject.

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Do You Think The Witnesses Actually Know What They Believe In?

by minimus in

i think they know what they don't believe in, like no blood, no hellfire, no trinity....but they really couldn't explain what their beliefs are and why they believe as they do.

do you agree?

nugget

No they don't since the gb is very good at slipping changes in under the radar. They like to create the impression that new light isn't really new it is something that has been doctrine for a long time and not a sharp change of thought or direction. As a witness they got so much past me especially after I had the children, Jesus not being my mediator, the change to the baptism questions, changes in the generation teaching it was laughable. I was deluding myself if I thought I knew te actual doctrine.

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* Video* "Man Escapes Being Crushed By A Boulder"

by rip van winkle in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40ohp0ftbsc&feature=youtube_gdata_player.

nugget

scary stuff rather him then me.

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"False Prophets" part notably uncomfortable

by Separation of Powers in

so, service meeting last night.

bro handling the "false prophet" part was notably disturbed.

every time he spoke of previous "expectations" his body language was like "oh my god, can you believe i'm saying this?

nugget

I was under he impression that today the GB makes decisions based on a 3 thirds majority vote. It is not a unanimous decision.

They can't help themselves they lie and lie and lie. Not inspired but they are God's representatives. How do they even know that if God isn't talking to them. Not inspired, often wrong but believe what we say is right now even though it may change later.

Muppets

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WATCHTOWER BUILDING PROJECTS REVEAL HYPOCRISY ABOUT STRESSING URGENCY OF PREACHING WORK

by steve2 in

based on a letter elders in the united states have just received in the past week from the governing body, work on the warwick complex will take " a few years" to complete.

concurrent with this, the organization urges the rank and file to urgently preach the "good news of the kingdom" because we are so deep into the end.

so, why bother with the warwick project - or indeed the just advised project in the united kingdom to relocate the london bethel?

nugget

It depends where you are as to whether the structure is expanding or not. Certain places are seeing the expansion of administrative buildings but other places have seen their branches close. They have consolidated and rationalised the life out of thei structure and now wish to cash in on all that prime real estate. It is after all a business.