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response from Ray Franz on generation change

by isaacaustin in

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thanks for your letter and the thoughts contained.

others had commented on the latest shift of the interpretation of this generation.

as you recognize this allows for an unending extension of time and likely stems from an awareness of the approach of the year 2014 marking 100 years since the date of 1914.. .

jdhf

GromitSK...

Maybe I worded it wrong...i grew up a good irish catholic girl, and then became a JW...i have always been a spiritual person and the so called truths I learned, no longer true...well I can't prove ALL of them are false, but I have had the wind knocked out of me, and now having NO faith...it is alien to me. I NEED to know there is something better than nothing. Even as a scientist, I admit I believe in a creator and I am not used to drifting about spiritually not having ANY direction. Maybe it was just a comfort, but I fell hook line and sinker and have such a huge void as large as a supernova.....I know many may be critical, but different people need different things in life, and I need God. I just wish I could find him.

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response from Ray Franz on generation change

by isaacaustin in

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friends

thanks for your letter and the thoughts contained.

others had commented on the latest shift of the interpretation of this generation.

as you recognize this allows for an unending extension of time and likely stems from an awareness of the approach of the year 2014 marking 100 years since the date of 1914.. .

jdhf

I assume Isaac is Ray....!! I am still reading his books, and feel like the blind Jesus healed. I feel thanks to him I can see the truth...thing is, I still don't have anything to replace it with...any ideas??

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I Wish People Would Stop Calling It The Truth

by Quillsky in

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why do you call it "the truth"?

even after you leave??.

it's wrong on so many levels.

jdhf

It's funny how this subject came up. While visiting my friend the other week, who is leaving too, we both inadvertently called it the truth. We both laughed and agreed to try to say something else like 'the witnesses' etc.....I am trying to de-programme myself to not say it, mostly as It doesn't deserve to be called truth, or anything that resembles it. It is a really difficult thing to let go of, and for me I think partly as I am saddened that it isn't the truth...and I'm finding now that I don't know what direction to go in. Many who were really indoctrinated find it really hard to let go of this term, among others like 'brother' etc....time will heal the wounds and these terms will be a thing of the past eventually for most who leave. Don't get annoyed at those who use the terms JW's use every day....be patient and sympathetic as brainwashing is a cruel and sad thing to endure and empathy is needed by all toward those brave enough to leave this high control group..x

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who knew a wife who was in a domestic violence situation while a jw

by looloo in

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i knew a girl who got married at 19 despite objections from the elders , they got disfellowshipped and reinstated after 18 months , he chose her clothes and would not allow her any money , he insisted on doing the food shopping with her , he hit her if tea was not on the table when he returned from work , he broke her nose once when she was holding her 2 year old child , when she approached the elders , onesaid to her "what are you complaining about ,he hasnt broke every bone in your body , there are sisters who put up with much worse !

if a jw man is not supposed to be violent why would they not give him a telling off ?.

jdhf

These are tragic stories...I too had a good friend in Northern Ireland who was violently abused by her husband....i begged her to leave him. She had 2 small girls and they were friends with my 2. I moved abroad and when I got back I was told she had moved back to England. I was so happy for her. The elders in her cong. up the north were totally unhelpful. this bro was so popular I don't think they really believed her. I was so disgusted, having been and still being in a divided home...and going through emotional abuse, i just hated how they treated her. I thought they would have wanted to kill this brother as he was an active JW, but this opened my eyes to their behaviour and started to sow seeds of doubt. Jesus nor Jehovah would tolerate for a second such treatment of the weaker vessel.

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Just read Crisis of Conscience - Malawi/Mexico double standard

by jambon1 in

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all i can say is - wow.

what a bunch of absolutely hypocritical, double tongued shithouses the governing body really are.. reading the letters to & from the different branches/governing body on 'alternative service' made me so angry.. an organisation that is utterly rotten from the top down.

these men have blood on their hands.. filth!.

jdhf

Good posts all...Iam reading the book now. I passed the ch. about the Malawi atrocities and nearly wept. I was still making up my mind but this book solidified all of the things I think are wrong, and prove it to NOT be Jeh's org. Those letters from the brother who did all the research on 1914 really annoyed me. Their replies were awful and indignant, not loving. They do not care about truth or decency, or any witnesses as individuals, just power and control. Ray Franz was not high in my estimation coming into the 'truth' and not 'till recently. His book is candid, honest, insightful, loving, and a good worl of literature. All should read it. A copy should be sent to every witness and them made read it. He is a light amid darkness and the WTS are the true apostates.

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Newbie here, need some input

by FollowerOfSet in

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i wanted to introduce myself, and need some advice.. i dissassociated myself back in 1995. haven't had much of anything to do with my family since then.

they are all witnesses, and very dedicated to their beliefs.

so after 15 years without a simple howdy from them, now they are coming around again and being very nice, but it reminds me of when people would have parts in the ministry school...it seems rehearsed and fake.

jdhf

hey there.....My biological family have shunned me for 20 years now, but not for religious reasons. I married 'beneath me'...anyway, I am of the opinion that if they came running back I would forgive them and run into their arms but they have hurt me so much that I think I would forgive them but still keep a distance. twice shy....

they have shown no love for you as your bio family for so long, and they can't take that back. I would be really wary and cautious. i would ask them directly their reasons for this sudden action, as they are going against their religion by contacting you. Something is up. You have a right to be paranoid. It's called instinct. use it well.

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Elders who step down for little or no reason?

by Truthexplorer in

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within the past decade, two elders stepped down in my old congregation.

actually one was taken off for commiting adultery and therefore reproved, but the other one simply stepped down for no apparent reason.

also, in another congregation i used to attend for a short time, i was shocked to hear of another elder stepping down, again for no apparent reason.. i am wondering if there has been an increase in the number of elders stepping down for no obvious reason and to see if this is a worrying trend causing alarm for the society.. i am thinking the past 10 years, particularly with the internet being available to so many people around the world today; but have you experienced many elders stepping down in your congregation or past congregation?

jdhf

TE...a really nice elder in my 'old' cong stepped down last year...incidentally, a sister of many years asked him a question about the paradise which he couldn't answer not long before this happened.. He stepped down shortly afterward. his family are alot quieter too. He gave no reason, and did nothing wrong, it was his choice. there is always a reason, but none may be evident. Only the other elders and friends are told a reason why, only he knows himself the real truth why.

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An easy way to demolish 1914

by sd-7 in

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i've read so many different discussions about 587 b.c.[e.

i often wondered if those issues were debatable; either way, i found the discussions of the historical data to be far too technical for the average person to absorb.

if i may be so bold, i consider myself as slightly above average, in my more arrogant moments.

jdhf

sd7 I like your post..you have made a good point...the bible is so straight forward and the WTBTS have made it so complicated, it's sad.

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This is probably petty, but .....Did you ever have a problem with losing your KM?

by miseryloveselders in

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"misery, do you have an extra kingdom ministry?

" "misery, you didnt give me my kindom ministry for april, i know its only february, but you wouldnt happen to have it, would you?

" "i could have sworn i gave you your km.

jdhf

i liked the statistics....but the info in them was always the same.. my girls never really read them, thought they were boring!

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Is the Yellowstone caldera safe? You decide...

by Nathan Natas in

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from: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/12890.

scientists on alert after hundreds of earthquakes daily rattle yellowstone national park.

over the course of the past two weeks, more than one-hundred mostly small earthquakes per day, on average, have shaken up a remote area of yellowstone national park in wyoming.

jdhf

I have to say, after finishing my uni studies on earthquakes and volcanoes, the supervolcano in Yellowstone really worried me. Not really if but when it does blow, it will have devastating effects on the world, not just the USA.. As the largest volcano in the world, and although dormant, geologists are really worried about it. this was clear during my studies. The activity has not surprised me, and the data I have collated from the USGS shows huge changes. There is no point in panicking though as it probably will not blow in our lifetime, although who can be sure with a ticking time bomb.....sleep well!