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  I continue to find it incredible....

  by AK - Jeff in

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  that christians throw the old 'where did the matter come from if there was a big bang'?, while having no problem with thinking that god was always there!.

  so the dust in the room had to have a 'maker'?

  but the super-computer brain sky-daddy is just there and always has been?.

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  Why would one kind of knowledge be more "fun" than the other? I'm not sure why someone would think hard science isn't fun enough. How else can you blow shit up? LOL

  Some people just find certain things more interesting than others.

  Everything with a cause had to have a first cause

  So god caused the universe to come into existence, something cause him to want to do it, his existence caused him to have desires. What cause his existence?

  Creationism attempts to "understand" all by just lumping all the unknown into the name of an "infinitely eternal creator".

  Die, blasphemer! ;)
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  I continue to find it incredible....

  by AK - Jeff in

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  that christians throw the old 'where did the matter come from if there was a big bang'?, while having no problem with thinking that god was always there!.

  so the dust in the room had to have a 'maker'?

  but the super-computer brain sky-daddy is just there and always has been?.

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  We know that it wasn't always there, or else there would not have been a "beginning".

  The beginning of what? If you are referring to the point in the past when the big bang occurred, the answer is "we don't know", the same answer we give when you say "what happens inside of a singularity". The physics we know break down and can't describe that event or what happened before it.

  Some day we MAY know, but right now we don't. We actually don't even know exactly how big the universe is...we only know how big the visible universe is :)
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  I continue to find it incredible....

  by AK - Jeff in

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  that christians throw the old 'where did the matter come from if there was a big bang'?, while having no problem with thinking that god was always there!.

  so the dust in the room had to have a 'maker'?

  but the super-computer brain sky-daddy is just there and always has been?.

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  But the super-computer brain sky-daddy is just there and always has been?

  Nu-Lite says that god isn't the beginning and the end, but that he exists outside of time and is not subject to it, that time flows like a river and that god is on the banks of the river, time is flowing, but he isn't in it.

  I think that is their desperate attempt to neutralize the more advanced science and knowledge coming to light.
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  WT March 15, 2010 - Page 27

  by St George of England in

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  this article to be studied in two weeks time, in paragraph 13, footnote says: "jesus is the mediator of that covenant, not a participant.

  as the mediator, he evidently did not partake of the emblems.".

  (note use of evidently again!).

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  I don't think dismissing the traitor is anywhere in the Bible. That's another Dub "evidently" conclusion.

  Matthew and Mark say he dismissed Judas and then instituted the ritual. John says it was after the ritual. Evidently, John meant that Jesus dismissed Judas, but that he forgot his 30 pieces of silver and returned for it, and upon thinking of a witty joke, was in the room with the 11 remaining apostles but did not partake.
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  generation teaching reconsidered

  by inbetween in

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  was thinking about this new generation teaching, and to some extend it makes sense, let me explain.. first of all, i personally believe, it only applied to jesus time, it only made sense there, and when jesus talked about it, in the year 33, this generation certainly observed the events leading to jerusalems destruction 70 ce.

  ( even though the context does not really give much hint, since he talks about the sign of the son of man being seen in heaven etc, something that did not happen in the first century).

  the main question is, what is a generation ?.

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  So what exactly are you saying a "generation" in a "biblical sense" means? Are you saying that it's referring to 3 or 4 generations?

  I think his point is that the bible specifically differentiates between generations, so the whole "Joseph's brothers were two overlapping generations that made a single generation" is bullshit.
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  Perhaps Had a " Ghost " Experience the Last 6 weeks on a Job ? You tell me

  by flipper in

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  i've never been one to believe in " ghosts " .

  i'm open to the possibility that there may exist something in the afterlife or spirit world- i just don't know what it is.

  having been out of the witnesses over 6 years i had my fill of being a jehovah's witness and being told how " scared " i should be of satan or the demons.

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  I've seen shadow people, but I didn't know that is what they are called. Just out of the corner of my eye, I'd see something move. I'd look at the area straight on and see nothing.

  Our peripheral vision is tuned to detect motion much more readily than focused vision. Likely an evolutionary response to alert us possibile incoming danger when our attention is focused elsewhere.

  I have a couple of dreams a year that occur just before the event makes the news. Who knows how many of my dreams that don't make the news actually happen?

  Time is a funny thing. We can make it speed up or slow down. We don't know it onlyu moves in one direction (as far as we can tell).
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  "The Vincible Ignorance of Atheism"

  by leavingwt in

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  one evangelical's perspective on atheism, and 'red meat' for all.

  the vincible ignorance of atheism.

  david harts recent essay on the new atheists has been receiving a great deal of attentionand criticism.

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  I know who said it. It's still dishonest and not true. It's not the way the word is intended or understood by most people. It's a way of putting words in someone's mouth.

  Same idea, taken one step further to it's logical conclusion.

  I'm terribly curious why it is that people who have science degrees sometimes feel that gives them the task of explaining what is and isn't possible when it's impossible to determine exactly what is possible and impossible on some levels to the rest of us poor morons?

  Then you misunderstand science. Scientists don't (or shouldn't) be telling us what is and what isn't possible. However, they can tell us what is and isn't measureable and that artificially stimulating the right areas of the brain in non-spiritual people can induce the exact same experiences and what all of the evidence (or lack of it) points to.
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  Perhaps Had a " Ghost " Experience the Last 6 weeks on a Job ? You tell me

  by flipper in

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  i've never been one to believe in " ghosts " .

  i'm open to the possibility that there may exist something in the afterlife or spirit world- i just don't know what it is.

  having been out of the witnesses over 6 years i had my fill of being a jehovah's witness and being told how " scared " i should be of satan or the demons.

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  This is all specualtion and possible explantions for things. This board has a long history of mocking anyone who believes in afterlife experiences. If it didn't happen to them, it is not possible, they feel.

  I don't think that's the reason. I've never had sex with a man, but I am reasonably sure it happens. It's more along the lines of rejecting one supernatureal unproveable belief and trading it for another.
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  Thinking on sin, whether this sin be taken from a theistic or a-theistic perspective

  by gubberningbody in

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  needs at least two things, it would seem.. 1. free will.

  2. a discrete responsible self (tied into 1).

  3. memory.

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  In addition, the flesh contains sin IN it (which is why it gets sick, ages, dies). Sin is not just breaking a "law" - it is corruption in the flesh.

  So sin is a genetic condition that causes cells to divide with incomplete genetic information?
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  The Most Insane Thing Ever Printed by the Watchtower?

  by Leolaia in

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  i found this while perusing through old golden ages at the new york public library.

  it is so patently ridiculous and offensive, i thought i'd just post the thing without comment.

  *** g27 11/30 pp.

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  If being white is an "anomaly"... well, let's just say that would explain a hell of a lot for this white guy

  If only they had known what scientists have since discovered - white skin is actually an anomaly!

  Being white isn't an anomoly, per se, it's an evolutionary response (genetic reaction) to sunlight. Your skin color is a result of a genetic variant that controls how much eumelanin that your skin produces. Eumelanin helps to protect your skin (your body's largest organ, BTW) from ultraviolet light from the sun. However, that genetic variant also influences something else.....your ability create vitamin D from the sunlight.

  High eumelanin production blocks you from producing vitamin D from the sunlight. The tone and color of a peoples skin is almost, like, 99.999% related to how much direct sunlight the area you live in receives. The farther north or south you move away from the equater the lighter the skin becomes (historically speaking). That mutated response to allow peoples who get LESS direct sunlight to more efficiently use all of that available light to produce vitamin D. The phenotype, that is, the outward expression of that mutation, becomes more and more apparent as you move farther north or south away from the equator. People get whiter and whiter. Red hair is also an expression of that mutation.

  So, how do our darker skinned peeps get vitamin D? They have ANOTHER genetic variant that allows them to synthesize vitamin D from cholesterol. A noteable exception to this are the Inuit (Eskimos). They get vitamin D from their diet, so they never needed to get lighter skin.