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  Are there more XJWs than JWs?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ......well, that's my question.. i have no stats to back anything up.

  just putting it out there for thoughts/comments..

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  Chaserious

  Just my own guess... if you count born-in kids and faders, yes and it's not even close. If you only count DF'd/DA'd former JWs, no.
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  Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.

  i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .

  cedars.

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  Chaserious

  It seems to me that at times there is a temptation to use tragedies to try to further the ex-JW agenda of proving Watchtower doctrine wrong, and in my opinion by using an apostate strawman argument at that.

  Yes, they pump up the experiences when someone (allegedly) escapes harm when they are at the meeting instead of staying home. But JWs are never directly told (nor in my own anecdotal experience do many actually believe) that they have physical immunity from harm while preaching.
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  Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.

  i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .

  cedars.

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  Chaserious

  http://newsok.com/gallery/articleid/3767428/pictures/1985482

  It seems that there was a sign. I knew a lot of witnesses who wouldn't go to a door with a beware of dog sign. I never observed anyone pressured into going, other than sometimes a female would ask if a male in the group wanted to go instead.

  Personally, I find the thinly veiled gloating over this kind of thing rather distasteful. The same thing happened with the bus crash where several were killed. To be fair, I very rarely came across anyone during my time "in" who felt they were invincible or magically protected while in JW-sponsored activities, say what you want about the ridiculous illustrations in the rags.
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  Jehovah generously provides?

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the june 15 2013 w pg 13, para 6&7 has an experience of a pioneer that needed $66 to pay her rent the next day.

  she prayed and went to work at her job as a waitress.

  when she finished her shift she had received a total of $66 in tips.

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  Chaserious

  This is one of the most moronic experiences yet. $66 is probably right around the average amount of tips a server makes during an average shift at a crappy restaurant. Since when is God responsible for average and mediocre results? It's like thanking Jahoover that your Chrysler got 23 miles to the gallon on the way to the assembly.
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  Is $1.55 Million Really Watchtower's 'Largest Cash Settlement In History?'

  by Scott77 in

  1. social
  2. current

  only reposting for those who did not read it.. .

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  Chaserious

  Yes, I would agree that this only applies to Bethel workers. Also, as the article says, one of the reasons that they decided to settle might have been because they were afraid of the precedent that trying the case might set for future cases. So it's not even certain that they are liable under an agency theory.
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  Should The Governing Body Seek Psychiatric Help For Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36t.htm.

  narcissistic patients try to sustain an image of perfection and personal invincibility for themselves and attempt to project that impression to others as well.

  physical illness may shatter this illusion, and a patient may lose the feeling of safety inherent in a cohesive sense of self.

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  Chaserious

  I get this, but haven't there been about 5 other threads on this exact topic in the past month or so?
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  Elders need to see things from Jehovah's perspective in a child molestation case

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  while preaching this past saturday 3-16-13 the following conversation took place in my car with an elder from my cong, my wife, a retired sister and myself.. me: addressing my wife i asked her: do you know how is brother (moron) that crashed his car into a fire station while drunk?

  wife: don't know.

  last thing i heard was that he was in a critical condition.at this point the elder chimes in.. elder: poor guy!

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  Chaserious

  I am confused since it seems like there are two issues here. The elder's first question seemed to be about whether repentance should prevent DF'ing of a child molester. But then it seems like the real discussion was about what to do when there is arguably not enough proof of whether the abuse took place.

  It seems obvious that the answer to the second question should be to alert the authorities and let them do a real investigation and warn the accused not to be in the presence of any children in the meantime.
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  Is this true? Do the elders really do it like this?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i put this week's wt paragraph about disfellowshipping on my fb page and said how poor robert's family didn't even check to see whether he was dead or alive in 16 years and a friend of mine of the 'conscious class' commented about how unchristian she felt disfellowshipping to this degree is, and i agreed.. another friend, and uber-jw who has a host of illnesses and yet pioneers, who everytime she and her husband go to another congregation, if he's not appointed within three years they move to another and try for an appointment there - he used to be an elder and no one is willing to promote him again- replied to my thread.

  now keep in mind she has a dfd son and she doesn't even know whether he is dead or alive, because she follows the wt to the tee.

  she replied, among other things,with this:.

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  Chaserious

  Of course it can be one error and you're out. Or one doctrine you disagree with and you're out. If you're Catholic and disagree with the contraception ban, you can disregard it at your own risk (of eternal damnation, I suppose), but you don't have to choose between that and all of your friends and family. But if you disagree with the blood ban and accept a blood transfusion, or even tell others that it's okay to do so, you will be expelled. If they can establish that you took blood, they won't even hold a JC to see if you really want to leave. It's considered an automatic disassociation. Same with joining the military. A friend of mine from growing up kind of faded, but then joined the military, and he was DF'd (technically DA'd, but really what's the difference) without a judicial committee.

  Technically it was his choice to join the military, but the choice really was between blindly obeying every rule and doctrine or having your family and friends.
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  JW women in critical condition after being attacked by pit bull while out in service

  by JimmyPage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20130319_11_0_twowom831238.

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  Chaserious

  Sad story... hopefully they will be okay. There are a lot of cases of pitbulls who have no violent history and then commit a vicious attack.
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  My wife buys "50 shades of grey??? How shes changed since being inactive!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so this morning we flirt and i tell her what a "dirty girl" she is for buying those books...but i was thinking this from a girl who broke a frying pan on my car years ago because i didnt want to go to the meetings.

  slowly i wore down that rock that she is with little facts and qoutes...i would not have stayed with her if she remained the fanatic witness she was....also she now swears like a sailor...i like that..

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  Chaserious

  My wife read all 3 of the Fifty Shades books, but she never read the Watchtower or Awake even when we were in. I read a couple of chapters and wasn't too impressed.

  I wouldn't be shocked if some "in" JWs even read it on the sneak. Especially now that you can read on your ipad or Kindle and don't have to buy a bound book. I mean, the ban on porn doesn't mean all the elders and bethelites weren't watching porn on their computers. Why wouldn't the sisters be reading lady porn on their tablets? lol