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My bad, Oops good point! Does the law apply to representatives of the society who provide services in victoria?
stuckinamovement
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Why on earth would WT use a FEMALE lawyer to defend it in Australia case?
by hamsterbait inhow many of us here find the use of a female to conduct the defence unusual?.
the wt religion is notoriously misogynistic.
anybody with a penis is preferable to do a non menial job.. why the change here?.
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Why on earth would WT use a FEMALE lawyer to defend it in Australia case?
by hamsterbait inhow many of us here find the use of a female to conduct the defence unusual?.
the wt religion is notoriously misogynistic.
anybody with a penis is preferable to do a non menial job.. why the change here?.
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stuckinamovement
I know why they are using a female lawyer. I would bet that Mr. Toole as an Elder is himself guilty for not getting the Victoria WWC card. So the branch is sending in someone with cleaner hands.
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An Australian Teacher Comments on WWC
by compound complex ini am a registered teacher in western australia and i have a working with children's card, as is mandatory for all who work with children in most australian states, i.e.
victoria, new south wales, queensland, and western australia.. the wwc is more strict than the national criminal history check which many employers in australia now insist on.
the wwc considers not just convictions for child-related crimes, but also allegations, acquittals and spent convictions (where one is found guilty but no penalty is imposed).
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stuckinamovement
Thanks for the info CoCo. I think this case has got some real potential to be very damaging to the organization. Think about it, all seven members of the Governing Body are being criminally charged. Holy crap. I hope this gains some worldwide attention. SNAP might be a good resource in helping to publicize the case.
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Oct. 22nd Zone Meeting: Here's some facts and figures presented to ticketed-only audiences
by AndersonsInfo inif we weren't invited, this is the "bragging" information we missed last saturday, oct. 22, 2011, at the zone meeting with tie-in from patterson, ny .
59 locations tied-in plus spanish.
anticipating 258,000 attendance from tickets given out.
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stuckinamovement
Interesting. The math shows that one person was baptized for every 111 existing publishers. Out of those 10,837 baptized what do you bet that 80% were children of current publishers? Pretty terrible results in recruiting. Less than a 1% increase.
To boil it down even more...Assuming 80% baptized were kids or relatives and not from the D2d ministry that means that the past year's efforts only brought in 2,167 from the door to door work. Truly, Jehovah is speeding up the work in this time of the end?
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Could the Governing Body be done away with?
by Aussie Oz ini posted this idea on another thread but perhaps it is worth its own discussion.. could the gb be done away with?
seriously.. they came to be, out of a troubled time.
there was much opposition as we know to the whole gb idea at the time.
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stuckinamovement
Good Point Think about it.
The marked difference between 1918 and now won't stop them from making that comparison though. They would still spin it as the Government trying to stop their work in Australia by using in their way of viewing it, obscure, unfair, and inapplicable laws to restrict the work.
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Could the Governing Body be done away with?
by Aussie Oz ini posted this idea on another thread but perhaps it is worth its own discussion.. could the gb be done away with?
seriously.. they came to be, out of a troubled time.
there was much opposition as we know to the whole gb idea at the time.
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stuckinamovement
Ding is right. If they were arrested for example in the Unthank case thay will cry persecution and point to the similarities in 1918 with Rutherford and the gang.
The only way you could cause a schism is if the members of the writing committee and legal teams decided that they don't need the Governing Body anymore. In truth they probably don't. The GB is nothing more than old figureheads anyway. Legal could concievably get together with the writing dept. and decide that the blood doctrine needs to be "adjusted", that shunning is unscriptural, and adjust the policies regarding child molesters. They could in one fell swoop, elimnate many of the legal liabilities while at the same time using the Governing Body as scapegoats. Presto chango a new friendlier version of JW's.
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Here is the funeral talk outline. VERY discraceful.
by stillstuckcruz inthis is truly terrible.
i just love the statement "instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.
" in other words, utterly disregard the deceased.
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stuckinamovement
I recently had a family member of my wife's pass away. We went to the Memorial and the Hall was packed out. This person was in their 80's had a mess of kids and grandkids and was truly loved by many. They had an amazing life and touched the hearts of pretty much anyone they met. The memorial talk was given by an elder who's name has shown up on this board as being a "heavy". It was nothing but a history lesson of the kingdom growth in that geographical area and a recruitment pitch. Kids were not mentioned or the qualities of this amazing person.
It was really just an excuse to brag about the organization to 300 something people. It showed me that once you become a Witness you sign your life over to a faceless organization that will forever more exploit your time, energy, money, reputation, and even death. How is it possible that an organization built on a lie can minimize your life, even at the very celebration of your life?
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Uber Dub wants to have dinner....
by outsmartthesystem inok. the good news is that my wife has eased up on the whole "talking it out with the elders" thing.
she now insists that she is doing her"own independent research with unbiased materials" on some subjects.
unbiased?
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stuckinamovement
Go and tell him the truth about the truth. Guaranteed you won't get anymore calls or invites. Remember, it takes two witnesses for judicial action.
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The Impact of Leaving
by leavingwt ini would like to share the information below with newer members and lurkers.
we're not insensitive to what you're now going through.
many of us have been in your position.
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stuckinamovement
Great List. I am definitely printing it out.
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DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THIS?
by lola-rabbit indose anyone remember this issue?
i remember i was 18 when i read this, being a youth myself i put myself in their shoes and i was so sad and angry.
their short lives were stolen.
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What the craziest thing is: I would bet some of those kids died refusing blood and blood fractions 6 years before the new fractions doctrine was adopted that would have saved their lives. too bad they didn't get sick in 2000.
So tell me who is responsible for their deaths, Jehovah, the Governing Body, or their parents for following the commands of men. Man this makes me so angry. These Jackasses have the nerve to claim to speak for god and mandate that their followers obey at the risk of social execution or even physical death, and then reserve the right to do an about face change position, and still claim that god is directing them.
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