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  Mind Control Group Conformity Sycophants to Authority

  by PublishingCult in

  1. watchtower
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  i thought this video demonstrates fairly well the psychology behind the delusion that 7.2 million jehovah's witnesses share.

  it isn't so much unity or oneness of mind or a common bond of truth, but the pressure to conform.. mind control group conformity sycophants to authority.

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  It seems conformity was more prevalent in the mid 20th century when this video was recorded.

  I dunno. When I look around what I see is many groups of people trying so hard to be non-conformist that they end up being just like everyone else.
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  Great reply to "Apostates only tear down, they never build up!"

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  2. friends

  i'm sure many of you are familiar with that line.

  it continues to be a card played frequently by the wt society.. is there any truth to it?

  "apostates" do tend to tear down.

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  ...."A destroyer of weeds, thistles, and thorns is a benefactor, whether he soweth grain or not." I cannot for my life see why one should be charged with tearing down and not rebuilding simply because he exposes a sham, or detects a lie. I do not feel under any obligation to build something in the place of a detected falsehood. All I think I am under obligation to put in the place of a detected lie is the detection.

  I like this response.

  The WTBTS does its own fair share of tearing down and loves to boast of how they expose the lies of other religions. Fair enough. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. What makes what they do and how they do it inherently evil is the fact that it isn't enough to merely expose a lie and leave in its place the mere detection. They go even further by replacing one lie with another.

  There was a time when I thought giving up the belief system I held my entire life was the scariest thing in the world, for if THIS wasn't the truth, then WHAT is? Fallacious thinking, indeed. Wisdom prevails in that you simply do not need to replace one belief about something immediately.

  

  We tend to think that a belief is like the golden idol in the opening scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark in which Indiana Jones must quickly replace the idol he removes from its pedestal with something of equal weight in order to prevent the cave from crashing down and springing death-dealing booby traps. It really isn't that dire.

  It is sufficient to simply acknowledge that a belief is false. Once we do that, we are open to perhaps replacing that belief with one that is far more powerful. A sense of tremendous peace came over me the moment I accepted that what I believed was a lie, and when it came to the question, "then what IS the truth if not THIS . . . ?, being able to say with all rationality, "I don't know, and it's OK that I don't know". If I had not have let the detection of a lie sit in the place of a the lie for a while, I never would have come to the knowledge and acceptance that God(s) and spirits, and angels and demons do not really exist. I never would have liberated myself from superstition, religion, mysticism and fear. I never would have learned the joy of being a decent person out of compassion and empathy for others rather than doing it out of fear of destruction by a lunatic god who is extremely immoral and pathetically incompetent.
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  Mind Control Group Conformity Sycophants to Authority

  by PublishingCult in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought this video demonstrates fairly well the psychology behind the delusion that 7.2 million jehovah's witnesses share.

  it isn't so much unity or oneness of mind or a common bond of truth, but the pressure to conform.. mind control group conformity sycophants to authority.

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  I thought this video demonstrates fairly well the psychology behind the delusion that 7.2 million Jehovah's Witnesses share. It isn't so much unity or oneness of mind or a common bond of truth, but the pressure to conform.

  Mind Control Group Conformity Sycophants to Authority
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  Best way to step down from being a servant

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey i'm wondering if anyone can give some good advice on how to step down in the safest way.. i have served as an ms for a number of years, but can't do it anymore.

  i know too much i want to fade in the future when i get some family things straightened out.

  i can't move right now so that's out unfortunately.. what should i tell the body?

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  The Effects of JW Child Abuse into Adulthood

  by PublishingCult in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my two oldest brothers, jim and ron, were coerced into baptism when they were but 10 and 11 years old.. .

  they were indoctrinated heavily, of course, and they tried to toe the line and be good little jw boys as best two unruly fatherless boys could.

  the nature of a boy won out and they both got into some mischief about a year later.

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  Thanks everyone for the condolences and kind words.

  Meh, upon hanging up from talking to my sis-in-law, my blood was boiling a little bit. This makes four people in my immediate that have died under the weighty oppression of the WTBTS. All three manifested in their lives the false concept that apart from the WTBTS and JW's, your life will be filled with feelings of hopelessness and worthlessness. It's as if they just kept moving through life ignoring the heavy shackles that remained upon their feet.

  Once we are adults, we are all responsible for the decisions we make in our lives and the direction we take. However, I know that for myself in trying to move on from my own abusive upbringing in the organization of JW's, that there is this constant wobble in the ankles as you keep moving forward. I know my brother was hammered even harder than I was, and I know he was moving to his final destination completely hobbled emotionally and mentally from his childhood indoctrination. I don't think he ever found the kind of support and information that so many find by simply visiting a discussion forum like this one. Things you can read about and learn here can help you make little distinctions that make a huge difference in your perspective, and directly effect your emotional states of mind, and allow you to make better healthier decisions. But he did, nevertheless, keep on moving forward, even if it was with taking a shot of Jack here, or a toke of weed there, a few pills . . . to numb the pain of mnemonic demonics.

  I do prefer to keep my personal life as personal as possible, but this is an important example to be shared with others who come here to read. I sincerely hope it helps to open your eyes. If you were born and/or raised in the organization of JW's, then maybe you will relate to this story and its bitter end. If you are a JW parent, maybe it will make you aware of how you are unwittingly abusing your children and condemning them to similar way of life. It's certainly worth thinking about.

  Thanks, again, for words of comfort.

  PC
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  Should Youths Get Baptized?

  by xcellxior in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  have a look at the pictures of this youth.

  doesn't look like his voice has even broken.. first article in the "study" edition.. http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/w_e_20110615.pdf.

  "does reading the bible and studying the.

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  Child abuse.
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  Where is that "Hidden HOOK"?

  by Terry in

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  a number of years ago i started doing something i had never done before.. i started questioning the basic premise of things which cause arguments.. why?.

  long running controversy usually contains a hidden premise both sides buy into without knowing it.. by backing up one whole step and questioning the basis for the hidden premise the problem quickly goes away.. .

  it looks yummy.

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  It was when we accepted the Bible as the actual words of God, the actual words of Jesus, the actual factual accounts of Apostles and an accurate historical record of real events in mankind's history. We had been conditioned to automatically accept that as a GIVEN and we did. We saw wriggling in the water a yummy morsel of The Truth, beautifully explained FROM THE BIBLE and we chomped down on it.

  I completely agree with this.

  They come to your door under the pretense of simply wanting to share encouragement from the Bible. They’ll bait you by innocently reading a scripture from The New World Translation- Then the switch! A scripted presentation on the current Watchtower publication offer.

  I demonstrated the JW technique for baiting the hook in one of my videos. I actually caught the entire process on video when I allowed one of the more smoother JW's I've seen try and justify the idea that all JW's are ordained ministers @ :58 seconds.

  CULT of the PUBLISHING CORPORATION IV- Ordained Ministers III
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  The Effects of JW Child Abuse into Adulthood

  by PublishingCult in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my two oldest brothers, jim and ron, were coerced into baptism when they were but 10 and 11 years old.. .

  they were indoctrinated heavily, of course, and they tried to toe the line and be good little jw boys as best two unruly fatherless boys could.

  the nature of a boy won out and they both got into some mischief about a year later.

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  My two oldest brothers, Jim and Ron, were coerced into baptism when they were but 10 and 11 years old.

  

  

  They were indoctrinated heavily, of course, and they tried to toe the line and be good little JW boys as best two unruly fatherless boys could. The nature of a boy won out and they both got into some mischief about a year later. The body of elders in the congregation saw fit to dole out the harshest of punishments- they were arbitrarily disfellowshipped. Suddenly, they found themselves being attacked, shunned, shamed, and held at arms-length, threatened that if they did not straighten up, not only would all friends and family members living outside our household never speak to them again, but that Jehovah would destroy them at Armageddon.

  Their spirits were crushed by all of this. Mother made them continue to go to the meetings while still living at home, but you can tell they were not happy during these days.

  

  Try as they might to grow up and make their way in this world with healthy minds and emotions, with dignity and self-respect, they turned it all inward using drugs and alcohol to numb the pain of the loss of love, the shame and guilt, the banishment from the only hope for life and happiness that was ever held out to them. They got married, had families, and did their best, but the underlying constant sadness would often take over and lead them to destructive behaviors.

  My oldest brother died two days ago of heart failure. (I've redacted information listed in the obituary in order to prevent trolls from doing what trolls do)

  

  I spent quite a long time on the phone today with his ex-wife and best friend, Dee, and we talked about a lot of things. She confirmed what I had always suspected. Jim carried with him, to the grave, all of the guilt and shame of his childhood. He always manifested a sense of hopelessness no matter what was going right in his life. Apparently, his broken spirit from years of WT child abuse was only mended, and then only sporadically, by the love and support he would get from his wife and children. The weight of the WT would always, however, come crashing down upon his progress and aspirations- an overwhelming feeling of grief and futility born of religious abuse. Dee said he sometimes spoke of what it was like dealing with so much weight on his shoulders for so many years. She knows the religion is to blame for breaking someone who would have otherwise been the most wonderful man in the world, so talented, so intelligent, so loving most of the time.

  Rest in peace, Jim. The nightmare is finally over.
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  Why God keeps silent to somebody even after intensive cry?

  by dattaswami1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  To the theists: Your reaction if God hypothetically changed the standards of right and wrong

  by simon17 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have more to say on this and its implications, but i'll keep this short to get some initial discussion.

  to those that believe in god, suppose he were to hypothetically change various standards of right and wrong, suppose with the new scrolls to be opened.

  things such as rape, theft and immorality are now perfectly fine and acceptable.

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  Um, things like rape, theft and immorality always were perfectly fine and acceptable to God. Just read the Old Testiment.