Why God keeps silent to somebody even after intensive cry?

by dattaswami1 94 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • dattaswami1
    dattaswami1

    Why God keeps silent to somebody even after intensive cry?

    Ans. A diabetic patient cries before a doctor to get a sweet for eating. The doctor has infinite number of sweets and he does not worry at all for giving a sweet to the patient. You are crying before God, who is the divine father (creator of all the souls) to give some wealth or to solve some problem. If He helps you, there is not even a trace of any personal loss to Him. Neither His wealth nor His power is finite and nor His love to souls is limited. The only factor that guides Him is to see the future position after the help. If your eyes are to climb the roof of your head after the help, God will keep silent. After the help you will fall down even from your present level and then you will cry again before the same God to lift you up.

    If the doctor gives you the sweet, the level of sugar may go up and the emergent treatment is also the responsibility of the same doctor. Hence the doctor will not give you the sweet. If the doctor is confident of your health, he may give the sweet. Sometimes the doctor gives the sweet and conducts the emergent treatment to show you the truth, if you are scolding the doctor to be unkind. The response of the doctor lies on his analysis of the situation and it is not the subject of the patient at all. You must have the faith in the doctor (God) that any response is for your good only and you must know that the patient is ignorant of his own real welfare.

  • simon17
    simon17

    In the case of the diabetic, the doctor can clearly and rationally explain to the patient exactly why he is not going to give the sweet based on medical and scientific evidence and his personal experience. The patient can ask questions which can be answerd.

    If God could physically answer the pleas (and moreso, satisfactorily give sound reason for inaction) to people who lost their entire family in a tsunami, or who are living their childhood being raped, molested and abused by those close to them, or to those being wasted away in horrific diseases. if they can get an answer for "why can't I stop being raped?" etc then I'm certainly willing to carefully consider the answer because I can't honestly even begin to contemplate what rational for not stopping things like that would be.

  • The Oracle
    The Oracle

    Why doesn't God ever heal amputees?

    Apparently he cures cancer and performs all kinds of miracles on occassion. It is pretty crazy that not once has ever deemed anyone who has lost a limb to be worthy of a cure.

    Weird.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    moreso, satisfactorily give sound reason for inaction) to people who lost their entire family in a tsunami, or who are living their childhood being raped, molested and abused by those close to them, or to those being wasted away in horrific diseases. if they can get an answer for "why can't I stop being raped?" etc then I'm certainly willing to carefully consider the answer because I can't honestly even begin to contemplate what rational for not stopping things like that would be.

    There are two (2) responses to both your and the OP's original question, dear Simon17 (peace to you!). Both are missed by the majority of mankind. The first is that the Most Holy One of Israel is not obligated to answer to, give any reason - sound or otherwise - or save anyone... other than those with whom He has covenanted to do so. Those are the ONLY people He promised to hear, listen to, protect, and prosper. That is Israel (and no, not those who believe they are Israel because they and their ancestors were born in a certain region and/or adhere to a particular religious system... but those who are either true blood descendants of Abraham, particularly through his son, Isaac, and HIS son, Jacob... or those and those (of ANY nation) who go with them, particularly those who are taken into Israel by means of an anointing with God's blood, holy spirit).

    The second is that no one comes to God... except through the Door that He provided, His Son and Christ, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH.

    To help you understand, I give you the account of Joseph. The family of a man in Canaan could be in the throes of famine, their crops producing nothing, and thus starving. They can cry out all night and day for Pharaoh to send them some grain. Indeed, the cry might even reach Pharaoh. However, the DECREE from Pharaoh was that ANY who wanted some of HIS grain... HAD to go to... and through... Joseph. It would have been the height of presumptuous, then, for such a man to sidestep Joseph and directly go to Pharaoh and ask for grain. In that situation, one of three things would have happened:

    He would have been put to death for invading Pharaoh's chambers without a proper invite or having been granted such access by... you guessed it... Joseph'

    He would have been turned away, tossed out, and sent home... with nothing at all

    He would have been sent to Joseph

    The only way the third could have occurred would be if the man could show there was some reason he didn't know of the decree. Given that the decree went out into all the land (and Egypt was over Canaan, at the time), that excuse most probably wouldn't fly. Most probably, the decision would have been that he SHOULD have known, either because messengers had visited him personally with the decree... travelers or traders passing through the land would have told him... or he would have inquired when he arrived in Egypt asking for grain. Jacob's sons certainly knew (or found out) who to go to.

    Meaning, one the first two was most likely to occur. It is exactly same as to one having one's cries for relief heard by the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies. Without going to and through Christ... it just doesn't work. What of one's like, say, Cornelius? If you believe that Cornelius didn't come to accept Christ as the Son of God, given what occurred in Jerusalem... simply because the Bible does not say he did... then you are fooling yourself. Christ didn't say, "No one... except for Cornelius and those like him... can come to the Father, except through me."

    I hope this helps and, again, I bid you peace!

    A slave of Christ (who is NOT "Jesus"),

    SA

  • simon17
    simon17

    I'm not sure that helps, no.

    If you say that God is simply not going to answer most people, fine, but the point is that the analogy by the original poster is WAY OFF BASE. Because the doctor a) will physically answer and explain the diabetic. And b) he will explain it to ANY diabetic. If he didn't, we'd call him a racist or prejudiced and he'd probably be ousted from medicine for malpractice.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    It has been explained so that any "diabetic" who wants to know can, dear one (again, peace to you!). Every "diabetic" has the opportunity to hear. That many "diabetics" choose not to listen... or choose to listen to others instead... including others who aren't even doctors... really is on them.

    I am a diabetic. Let me tell you, there are all kinds of folks out there... including non-specializing doctors... even some who aren't even doctors at all... who claim to have the "cure" for (or the way to "reverse") diabetes. I would be lying if I said I didn't consult some of them or read their books. None of which helped at all.

    A diabetic needs to consider the expertise of the doctor they're consulting.

    Again, peace to you!

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • simon17
    simon17

    Well, ok.

    I personally know someone that went through horrendous things as a child. I'm sure if someone had any sort of satisfactory answer that person would listen.

    Suppose the diabetic showed up at the hospital but no doctor would greet them to answer the question. Instead they had to embark on a quest to find ancient medical texts with clues that could be interpreted by various people as to what the doctors prognosis of their current sweet tooth craving was. I mean, if you try to make this analogy fit, it would eitehr become beyond ridiculous or make the person "treating" the diabetic the most sadisitc doctor in history.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    I personally know someone that went through horrendous things as a child. I'm sure if someone had any sort of satisfactory answer that person would listen.

    I knew/know some, too, dear one (again, peace to you!). Some even post here. But I'm not sure I can agree with the second part of your comment. Such traumatic experiences... and subsequent pain... has actually hardened the hearts of some so that they don't want to hear anything. From their perspective they are through. I understand and empathize with that... and so does the Most Holy One of Israel. Unfortunately, they are unable to move past their pain to contemplate that He wasn't responsible for their pain... told them how to get to Him... and recognize that they chose to listen to others whose "words" appeared more present and soothing. Unfortunately, they only received more pain. But it isn't over... and they can still listen, even now. If they choose to...

    Suppose the diabetic showed up at the hospital but no doctor would greet them to answer the question.

    I hate to point this out to you, but they are usually triaged, processed, even preliminarily evaluated before they ever see a doctor.

    Instead they had to embark on a quest to find ancient medical texts with clues that could be interpreted by various people as to what the doctors prognosis of their current sweet tooth craving was.

    Actually, they didn't... and don't... have to, dear one. That's just what they've been told by those posing as doctors, but who truly aren't. But if they had actually read such ancient texts, they would have learned two (2) things from them:

    First, that many of those written about in the writings didn't have to consult ancient writings, and (2) that all they really needed to do to see the doctor was present themselves to the doctor's assistant (which those who were written about who didn't consult any writings did)... and no one else. That One would not only have processed, triaged, and evaluated them, but also treated them so that they never actually even needed to see the doctor. Because the doctor had given that One "all authority", including authority to act on his behalf, even treat patients.

    I mean, if you try to make this analogy fit, it would eitehr become beyond ridiculous or make the person "treating" the diabetic the most sadisitc doctor in history.

    I'm not so sure... of either.

    Again, peace to you!

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • simon17
    simon17

    Its funny, I was having a conversation that went exactly like this just with a slightly different illustration, and sub God/Jesus for Allah. I mean, if it works for you, great... go with it. People all over the world, in every religion, feel the special hand of God/Allah/Christ/Vishnu/etc in their life and that it is the clearest thing in all the world. I see a equal lack of ANY evidence in any of these claims, but it makes all these different people feel good and protected and hopeful about life.

    Just please don't disrespect reality and claim there is equal tangible evidence to the doctor treating a diabet patient as their is in the God analogy. Please.

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Given the definition of "tangible", dear S17 (again, peace to you!), I could never make such a statement. I can say, however, that not all evidence is tangible, nor is tangible evidence the only reality. They only are to those who are limited... in their thinking... and ability to perceive beyond that which is physical.

    Again, peace to you!

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

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