Nina,
What a wonderful post. Thank you for sharing.
Just a thought......When was the last time you went to a Thursday night meeting, and left feeling good, inspired, listened to and loved?
Love to you and your family,
Lisa
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Tonight I took the children to a grief support group
by cruzanheart init's called "journey of hope" and aimed at helping children and their parents cope with the loss of a family member or loved one.
it was at a local methodist church.
dinner is served at 6:30, provided by different church groups, and then at 7:00 we break off into our groups.
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should shunning be reversed?
by kls init is so sad when i read threads of persons finding their in a cult, and want out .problem ,their family will shun them and ignore there own children and close family members.what if things were reversed?
what if the person leaving this cult shunned their loved ones, letting them know they are being brainwashed and you don't want their sick beliefs being pushed on them all over again.
i do believe cult members enjoy shunning , it makes them feel superior and they feel they are taking a strong stand just like the gb says to do .give them a taste of what they dish out ,shun the jw, if they won't convert to using their own mind, shun them with out guilt .
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what the heck?......
funkyderek says.."........but I don't want to get attached to him, and then have him taken away....."
what about your nephew, he still needs to know that his uncle is not the one that left him....
This brings back memories of my parents telling me that they did not want to get to know my children only to have to watch them die in armegedeon......
just my two cents,
Lisa
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heated debate on yahoo chat in Jehovah's witness chat with devout jws join
by thetruthaboutjws in.
blood issue right now wanna give me a hand one of me many of them they are being childish.
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Alternative pets?
by DanTheMan inwell, i don't have the most active or exciting life, so i've been thinking about getting a pet to liven things up a little around the homestead.
dogs?
too much commitment, also high ownership expenses.
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I also have a farret...JACK is the fourth farret I have owned...they don't have long lives 8 to 10 years I believe..I've had this one for 4 years...very tame..comes to me when I call..loves to hide shiny objects and candy......However cleaning the cage where he lives most of the day...is plain gross...I usually pay one of my children to do that part... Jack gets along well with Alice the Sheltie..Boo the big black 12 year old cat...and Angel the guinna pig
Lisa
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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #41
by ozziepost inwell, how's your weekend goin'?
mrs ozzie's soakin' in her bubble bath, listening to the rain falling outside, and all is quiet this evenin'.
bumped into a branch committee member in the supermarket earlier today.
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4 and 5 and 10 and 11 other :also the guilt thing
Lisa
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Who would you party with?
by WildTurkey in.
if you could party with one famous person for one night, who would you party with?.
i would pick bruce willis.
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lisavegas420
Willie Nelson..........
I heard he grows his own party supplies
Lisa
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edited....probably fake anyway
by Brummie in(edited because common sense kicked in...lol).
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/46969/2.ashx.
members of this forum need not pay this attention.. the proper people understand.
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So...um...sixofnine by any chance are you an artist?
Lisa
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I sent Cruzanhart letter to my parents
by lisavegas420 infirst a little background.
i was raised in the truth.
got disfellowshiped at 20 something, reinstated a year later, but was never really accepted before or after , just didn't fit in somehow.
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An update...........
I printed this thread out and um....carried it across the room to my husband to read...He was reading along when he got to Maverick 's post he laughed out loud and said ..."J-Dub"....... got to Big Tex's post ....and the tears were rolling down his face....
Next....my children came home from KY....they said being at my parents was so weird...that even though everyone was home...Dad, Mom, and my two brothers....18 and 20...that they didn't talk to each other...they were nice and friendly to MY children but kinda ignored each other.
My 18 year old brother and my son (also 18) got along great...My son invited him up here to visit us and also told my brother "You need to get to know your sister, I know she would be a great sister because she is the coolest Mom ever" (isn't that sweet) My 18 years old brother is also deep into Martial Arts...I found that more than a little strange being that my Dad has been as elder for 30 years or so. But I'm glad he has a distraction away from the JW life. There is hope!
Lisa
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I sent Cruzanhart letter to my parents
by lisavegas420 infirst a little background.
i was raised in the truth.
got disfellowshiped at 20 something, reinstated a year later, but was never really accepted before or after , just didn't fit in somehow.
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lisavegas420
Thank you all for your kind replys. I usually don't feel sorry for myself, but since they called my first, I thought they were extending a loving hand. I was wrong.
I feel much better now, I now know what unconditional love and friendship is.
And with the help of my husband, children and friends like you all, I will survive.
Love you all,
Lisa
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I sent Cruzanhart letter to my parents
by lisavegas420 infirst a little background.
i was raised in the truth.
got disfellowshiped at 20 something, reinstated a year later, but was never really accepted before or after , just didn't fit in somehow.
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First a little background. I was raised in the truth. Got disfellowshiped at 20 something, reinstated a year later, but was never really accepted before or after , just didn't fit in somehow. Even tryed to axuliary pioneer. Nothing. When I tried to talk to my Elder father, he said it was my own fault. The depression, the migraines, the whole not fitting in with the others, it was all my own fault. I was disfellowshiped again (i think) I quit going to the meetings, lived with a man, and never spoke to a witness or went to the meetings again.
I believe it is now in the mid to late 80"s. Life goes on. I met and married a wonderful man that loved my children as his own. Got an education and a great job. Raised my two children now 23 and 18. Have two granddaughters 5 and 9 mos. My parents didn't even know them my husband, children, or granddaughters.
Okay fast forward, it is now March 2003. My dad calls out of the blue it has been what 15 years or so. He calls to tell me that my mom is in the hospital. I should call her, if I want. ..Of course I want too.....I call, we have a pleasant conversation. ...I promise to send her pictures of the kids...
My children just happen to be going to KY to visit their friends. I ask them to stop by my parents house and drop off the pictures that we had gathered.
Here is where I may have messed up......I sent a copy of the letter that Cruzanhart had sent to the elders about her Dad.
It is now Thursday, March 13, 2003....Another phone call from my Dad....He got the pictures and the letter. His first question is "Are you an Apostate?" Me....WHAT? He said he and my mom couldn't even read the letter because it was written by an apostate. I said no she isn't, she was hurt by the Jehovah's Witness and now her father is dead because of mistreatment he received after all his years of faithful service. I sent the letter because I was concerned about this family and others in the same situation. He insisted it was all lies. (he didn't even read it)
Then the same old song and dance, about men being imperfect, and to wait on Jehovah and to read the magazines and go to the meetings. I said what about this man that is now dead because of the mistreatment. He again said it was not true, and even if it was it was his own fault. I starting to get loud at this point and cry on the phone..".How can you blame them?" "Dad, this is why I don't go to the meetings, you people could care less about human suffering"
Then, I ask how many witness have been to see Mom since her recent surgery. He said a couple, but that the witness are very busy people and that they are building a new kingdom hall, " I said the building is more important then the people?"
I think it will be years before I hear from them again. Although he did ask if I had talked to an elder and that I am supposed to get a visit once a year. I said no I only had one visit in the last 15 years, The elder that came only stayed a minute and said I only stoped because "your dad asked me to," It was not a shepherding call.
Did I do wrong?
Lisa