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  What do JWs think of this?

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  Ancient humans

  by goddidit in

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  does anyone know of any good examples of evidence that humans were around well before the jw claim, that doesn't rely on anything they so casually dismiss, like radiometric dating?.

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  Definition of 'miracle'

  by goddidit in

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  i'm confused about the definition of 'miracle' for jws (or any other religion for that matter).. some describe it as an exception to the laws of physics.

  the laws of physics is just a description of reality.

  if god were to intervene in the world then his actions, being real, would be within this reality, right?

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  Random chance or design?

  by goddidit in

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  2. bible

  i don't read too much jw material because it's pretty much all the same old rubbish and the constant lies and propaganda drives me nuts.. however, i've noticed a common theme with the 'argument from design' articles.

  you know, look at the eye, isn't it complex, evolution is wrong, blah blah.

  all the ones i've seen end in a question like "what do you think, is this a product of random chance or design?".

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  Debate

  by goddidit in

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  i'd like to have a one-on-one online debate with an active jw.

  it doesn't have to be private.. anyone have any suggestions how i might arrange this?.

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  untitled

  by goddidit in

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  i was told by a jw that the linguists have drawn lines on the map between languages with common words and the lines intersect at a single point, which they claim must be where the tower of babel was.

  obviously, this doesn't work mathematically but i'd be interested to see the article if anyone knows where to locate it.. thanks.

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  2 unrelated questions

  by goddidit in

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  what is the jw's explanation for how all the animals got to australia after the flood?.

  they bang on about carbon dating being flawed, using the usual creationist mis-information and lies but are they even aware of all the other dating methods and the fact that multiple independent methods are used and results only taken as true when they agree?.

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  Where can I get this book?

  by goddidit in

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  "my book of bible stories".

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/file:my_book_of_bible_stories.jpg.

  preferably electronic and free.

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  Deconversion

  by goddidit in

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  so i gather most of the people on this forum are ex-jws who have seen the error of their ways.. good for you guys.. would that put you in the unique position of knowing exactly how to make a current jw have doubts.. if so, how might that be?.

  i've tried science, philosophy, even simple logic and pointing out the quote mining but to no avail.. i'm not even saying there isn't a god, just that their version of the story blatantly contradicts emperical science in so many ways..

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  Age of Adam

  by goddidit in

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  does anyone happen to know what the jws have to say about this?.

  i know apologists usually have a convoluted answer for everything but i just can't think how they could possibly defend this.

  so, each 'day' of creation is 7000 years long, adam was created on the 6th 'day', god rested on the 7th 'day', adam then dies at an age of something like 930 years!!.

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