The WT teaches that Michael is Jesus because at 1 Thessalonians, chapter 4, it states that Jesus will descend from heaven "with" an arkangel's voice, concluding erroneously that Jesus has an arkangel's voice rather than Michael preceeding Jesus' arrival "with" a trumpet's voice announcing his arrival. Any King in ancient times arrived with trumpets being blared annoucing the King's coming and arrival and upon arrival--his presence.
Posts by Inkie
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18Jesus is Not Michael
by JosephMalik inyou all know that i argued this the other way and could not get good answers to daniel chapter 12. but if you see michael as performing a function much like john the baptist did and how the jews believed that elijah must come first then michael's function of standing in advance of the return of our lord for a short time prior to the resurrection of the dead makes perfect sense.
and it also gives a slightly different meaning to the words: " and what shall be the sign of thy coming, (events that take place after the standing up of michael) and of the end of the world?
" (christs return or presence.
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so now theres more remenant?!!!!!lol
by xbro inso the old cut off date of 1935 is old thinking??
the light gets brighter my ass!
theyre running scared as all the olds die off,remember the awake line about the world ending befor e the 1914 generation died out??
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Inkie
If you read the "Book" for what the books says, the Great Crowd does not make an appearance until AFTER the great tribulation, which is yet a future event. There cannot be existing NOW a great crowd. It does not get identified until AFTER the great tribulation. So, what does exist now are Christian (anointed ones as there are no other kinds of Christians), Christians who have the ONE HOPE of being with Christ.
The Society ONCE TAUGHT that the great tribulation commenced with World War I and that it's days were cut short at the end of that war, and commenced again with World War II and again its days were cut short at that war's end so that the Great Crowd could COME OUT OF the great tribulation. In 1969 at the summer convention, the Society changed its teaching and made the great tribulation a FUTURE event; however, they forgot to tell us that then that leaves the reason for the Great Crowd's existence--non-existent. Duh!!! There is no Great Crowd NOW!!! Again its first identification is AFTER the great tribulation--not before it!
Every Christian living today is anointed for that is what "Christian" means.
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A question for Christians
by paul from cleveland injesus said to 'go your way and sin no more' and the bible also says not to 'use the grace of god as an excuse to sin'.
however the bible also says that 'all sin and fall short of the glory of god'.
this means that we can only partially obey the commandment to be sinless.
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Inkie
Dear Paul:
Jesus said to 'go your way and sin no more'
In reading the biblical context of Jesus’ statement, you will note that he was talking to a woman who had been caught in the very act of adultery. No one who wanted to condemn and stone did so because none of them was without sin. They all left the scene. Jesus then asked the woman, ‘did no one condemn you’? She said, ‘no, not one.’ He then said, ‘Then neither do I condemn you. Go your way and sin no more.’ Thus, in the context of this narrative, Jesus was not talking about being sinless, he was talking about going one’s way and striving not to commit a similar sexual sin. But note, he did not condemn her for committing a sexual sin.
and the bible also says not to 'use the grace of God as an excuse to sin'.
Yes, the Bible does state this. What’s so hard to understand about this statement? It seems a “given,” yes?
However the bible also says that 'all sin and fall short of the glory of God'.
Yes, the Bible also states this. So . . . what’s your point? Simply put, ALL have sinned. Jesus himself stated that one of the reasons he came was to ‘call sinners’—not the righteous.
This means that we can only partially obey the commandment to be sinless.
There is absolutely no command in scripture (or the Bible for that matter) which states that we must be sinless. Where did you get that? The Bible admonishes us to try hard not to sin but nowhere does it state that we must be sinless. On the contrary, the apostle John writes that IF we sin, we have a Help with the Father, a righteous one. Paul, we are going to sin—we are sinners. But we should strive to do our best not to sin. But we have a Helper.
This fills me with as much anxiety that I had while being a Witness.
Let go of the anxiety. Jesus stated: “Do not be anxious.” Pretty clear cut, yes? “Do not be anxious over anything.”
How can I know if I'm being "good enough" for God?
Jesus made the statement that ‘no one is good except God.’ That being said, you, nor I, nor any other human being can be ‘good enough.’ Paul, where do you get this kind of thinking?
Since I can't be sinless, there must be some arbitrary cut-off point where I'm just not good enough.
True—you cannot be sinless. Deal with it. You will never be good enough. It is Jah and His Son who are good and because they are good, they fill the gap so that you can receive their loving-kindness and mercies and love and life and salvation, etc., etc., etc. They do it for you.
There's got to be a point when I've just committed one to many sins.
It is stated in the Bible that the ‘wages of sin is death.’ There is no such thing as ‘one to many sins.’ Adam and Eve committed only one sin initially which caused them to have to pay the price for that one sin—death.
As someone once asked 'am I going to die because I masterbated one to many times'?.
If you have masturbated even just one time (and if masturbation is a sin), then you have to pay the price—death. It is not about ‘ONE TO MANY TIMES.’ That’s it, that’s all.
You are forgetting the most important thing: Jah is a God of love, merciful and abundant in loving-kindness. That is why he sent his Son, to reconcile us to Him. You are being called. Come to me (Christ), Christ says. He is the resurrection and the life.
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how can the Jw's explain away the haiti earthquake?
by highdose ini'm sure they will get asked on the doors "how could god let this happen?".
i belive the standard answer is a fudged recitation of adam and eve, basicly meaning its ok that these people died becuase way back when, someone disobeyed god, and that makes it ok.... any other stupid jw explanations for this?.
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Inkie
Two reasons: One, the earth does what it does. Always has, always will. Two, people do what they do since Adam: building poorly (corrupt construction), corrupt governments (taking all the profits, who cares about the people), individuals and groups slaughtering each other (vandals and looters, etc. Very, very sad indeed.
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satan
by logic ini'm sure someone has asked this before, but did jesus create satan, and does 'created all.
things' include beings..
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Inkie
Jesus did not create Satan.
God -- Jah -- is the creator. And he didn't create Satan either. Everything Jah created was good. He created the Cherub who made himself into Satan. The defect was his own. Ezekiel 28 There were two Arkangels sitting upon the Ark of the Covenant, one of them being Michael and the other being the Cherub (who is now Satan) before he made himself into Satan.
Jah used his Son (Jesus) to create creation.
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is there a spanish language equivalent of JWFacts.com?
by chickpea insomeone has asked me and i dont know if there is or not.
anyone?
bueller?.
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Inkie
This might work for you: http://foro.univision.com/univision/board?board.id=testigosdejehova
--Inkie
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John 14:2 - what does it mean
by quietlyleaving infrom the 21st century king james version (biblegateway).
2in my father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, i would have told you.
i go to prepare a place for you.. for some reason this verse keeps coming into my mind.
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Inkie
Stephen: But of course it is literal--it's very real. And we will be part of it.
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John 14:2 - what does it mean
by quietlyleaving infrom the 21st century king james version (biblegateway).
2in my father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, i would have told you.
i go to prepare a place for you.. for some reason this verse keeps coming into my mind.
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Inkie
2In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Dear brothers and sisters in Christ: My father’s house (Temple) is not a house in which “we” inhabit per se; rather, it is a house which He and Christ inhabit. We, each of us as individuals, are the mansions (or the abodes or the rooms) which Jah and Christ will inhabit. We, each of us as individuals, are the rooms in which Jah and Christ inhabit or make their abode. We, each of us as individuals, are the “living stones” that make up the building with all its various rooms that Jah and Christ will inhabit. Our Lord, has gone to makea place for usto fit into the structure—the Temple—that Jah and Christ will inhabit. The Father’s house is a spiritual building not a physical one.
The apostles are the twelve foundation stones of Jah’s Temple (Ephesians 2:20; Revelation 21:14; 21:19), Christ himself is the foundation cornerstone of that Temple (Ephesians 2:20; 1 Peter 2:6-7), some are pillars and/or pearls in that Temple (Galatians 2:9; Revelation 3:12), and we will be “livings stones” in the Temple (1 Peter 2:5).
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.—John 14:23.
23 Jesus answered, and said to him, If any man loveth me, he shall keep my word [he shall keep my words]; and my Father shall love him, and we shall come to him, and we shall dwell with him [and we shall make a dwelling at him].—John 14:23 Wycliffe New Testament.
10 for he (Abraham) was looking for the city which has foundations, whose architect and builder is God.—Hebrews 11:10.
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How's It Possible To "Love" Someone You've Never Seen Or Heard?
by minimus inhonestly, how can you love anyone without seeing them?
"god" comes to mind..
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Inkie
The apostle John makes an interesting statement at 1 John 4:20.
20 If anyone makes the statement: “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving God, whom he has not seen.
--Inkie
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Inkie
He may yet. But with your seeming attitude, Why would he? Why should he? Do you speak to your family and friends in the same manner that you speak of Jesus here? If so, would they continue and want to make an appointment to speak with you?
“I'm getting up there in years so if he is going to come and set me straight he needs to get on with it.”
52 is not that old. Please correct me if I err, but you write with seeming sarcasm. Is that your intent? With all due respect, perhaps you should change your moniker to Unhappy Guy or Angry Man.
Okay . . . okay . . . we know that both the OT and NT have been tampered with. We got that. We know that Jehovah is very poorly depicted in the OT. We got that. Now what?
--Inkie