that is SOOOOOO SREWED UP
if jesus was here today, hed talk to you, and if the society dare to call that religion i hope they get their reward.
you are great, keep it up, maybe one day your sis will learn the "truth about the truth"
regards
josephus
well, get ready to be shocked at the audacity!.
we have family who came in from costa rica today.
a cousin and his girlfriend.
that is SOOOOOO SREWED UP
if jesus was here today, hed talk to you, and if the society dare to call that religion i hope they get their reward.
you are great, keep it up, maybe one day your sis will learn the "truth about the truth"
regards
josephus
hi all,.
i don't know about the rest of you, but there's something that grates on me like new chalk on a blackboard.. i refer to that expression jws use to describe that threadbare tapestry of conjecture, fill-in-the-blanks theological approach to doctrines the bible leaves hazy and judgmental moralism that comprises the wt belief system-- you know, ``the truth," as in ``he/she left the truth,'' or ``how long have you been in the truth?''.
may i suggest that it be amended to ``the opinion?
cripes
ive been calling it the opinion now for years, even when i was "in"
ask anybody, thats my copywritten phrase.
regards
josephus
i've been a part of this forum for about one month, and during that time i've been struck by the willingness of many so former jehovah witnesses either to ridicule the bible, or to stand by while it's being ridiculed.
so, i'm wondering how many of them while witnesses suffered through experiences so searing that they no longer believe in the god of the old testament.. who among you still believe that underneath the layers of contradictions, inconsistencies, and errors in the bible there may be found the words of a god who created the universe, and who also cares about you, personally?.
joseph f. alward.
hello
i still beleive in god.
what i beleive is a little more fluid nowadays, but i feel more open to other ideas too.
the bible is full of helpfull info, and i think much of it is too good to be just mans words.
despite what kent will say. the bible is not all bad.
look at proverbs, now thats a good selfhelp book.
regards
josephus
i thought that would get your attention.. i dont know if im being perverse here, but i seem to want one last confrontation with the jws.. i am out a good while now.
long enough to stop getting hellos on the street.
what those scumbags did to me before in thier meetings (old h20ers may remember) i still want to go at them again.. i was so depressed about things i really thought about suicide.
unclebruce
theres a name i know well.
thank you bud. i predict an ecard in your future.
cheers mate.
neil
ps
hows the weather down there ?
i thought that would get your attention.. i dont know if im being perverse here, but i seem to want one last confrontation with the jws.. i am out a good while now.
long enough to stop getting hellos on the street.
what those scumbags did to me before in thier meetings (old h20ers may remember) i still want to go at them again.. i was so depressed about things i really thought about suicide.
I thought that would get your attention.
I dont know if im being perverse here, but i seem to want one last confrontation with the jws.
i am out a good while now. long enough to stop getting hellos on the street. and even though i know
what those scumbags did to me before in thier meetings (old h20ers may remember) i still want to go at them again.
i was so depressed about things i really thought about suicide. One night i held a razer to my wrist trying to will
myself to do it.
it was only because of a nice new docter who wouldnt let me leave the surgery and gave me prozac that im here today.
those bastards lied again and again, one accused me of attempting to attack him, because i asked to speak to
him outside.
him and the co wrote letters pretending to be the whole body of elders , trying to get my brother dffd.
at the meeting with them the co said they were rightous men and justified in getting at me.
i can remember him making me shake hands with that asshole still.
he ended up removed himself, so i guess im better off than most here. but now i really want blood.
at a funeral last week the co was still there. he smiled at me and skook my hand, and even though hes about
sevennty i wanted to scream at the bastard.
i want to make them visit me and start it up again. i want to show them i dont give a fuck about them
or thier bullshit organization.
i want my mum to see who ive been dealing with all this time.
i work alone and most of my day is spent thinking about this crap. i want to finish it.
the question is why cant i forget.
any thought on my ramblings would be appreciated
thanks
josephus
ok, so i became a jw when i was in my mid 20's.
i was in my prime.. i was so busy being a witness, taking in the truth, pioneering bla bla bla that i feel like i've missed out on life totally.
now i'm pushing 40 and i'm tired.
one day at a time, thats how i take it.
at least you didnt find out the lie at fifty or sixty.
anyway forty is young.
i climb with a sixty year old.
he outwalks me, and out climbs me too !
have a good day bro
josephus
so when you were a teenager and it was assembly time which convention did you go to, to go bird watching?.
there were always rumors of the magical convestion someware where all the girls were lookers and were eager to meet young brothers.. did you all go to the pub after , whats the biggest crowd you ever saw after the covention in a pub.. once there were over a hundred of us crowding the locals out.. got any stories
i spent the majority of my later assenblies at the pub.
i got a lot out of those spiritual feasts.
regards
josephus
i love sunday.. i love tuesday night.. i love thursday night.. i love saturday morning.. i love the rest as well, it's just i've been reacquainted with these times.
AAAAAAMMMMMEEEEENNNNN
i just got back from a walk in the mountains. fifteen miles up and down, and i drive past a hall on the way there!!!
they were all mulling around outside in thier suits, and i was smiling.
life is ok.
josephus
well, i've made it through the first year!
one year out and still surviving - despite the fact that they said i would come crawling back with my tail between my legs!!.
i cant believe a year could go by so fast and also that you could achieve so much.
CONGRTS KIDDO.
i am into my second year allready, and have helped 4 others learn "the truth about the truth" so far.
thats four more than i brought into the "truth"
life is ok.
love
josephus
hi guys.
as you know ive been out about a 2 years now.. i recently lent coc and the sequal to a good freind and his wife.. he happens to be an elder in my old hall who still talks to me.. well i saw him recently, and he and his missus told me they agree with every word, but at thier age .
it would kill them leaving things.. my mum told me today he did a talk at the meeting and said there were things "witnesses should know".
ooops i meant
FREIND OF MINE
jo