i would willingly give my life to save my child.
i'm sure that would be the same answer for most parents, but how about those people without kids?
interesting question
last year i was lucky enough to save a man in a house fire.
now i got an award and was in the paper, and that was nice.
the guy was a 60 alocoholic, who set his house on fire while he was in it. and the next day he was drunk in the gutter outside my house.
if i was asked today would i give my life for that kind of person, id say NO
but if it happened again id go in.
my answer is, youll risk your life to do many irrational things, in hindsight you might not.
josephus
i have been thinking back this week on life growing up as a jw, and i remember the constant unceasing parade of apocalyptic images to enjoy.
the magazines with missiles on the covers telling us about certain war with russia, and how we would be dead 70 times over.
the big clock and its countdown to midnight, and thus destruction.. i remember being told a million times i wouldnt see 25, im 28 now.
Hi all
I have been thinking back this week on life growing up as a jw, and i remember the constant unceasing parade of apocalyptic images to enjoy. the magazines with missiles on the covers telling us about certain war with russia, and how we would be dead 70 times over. the BIG clock and its countdown to midnight, and thus destruction.
i remember being told a million times i wouldnt see 25, im 28 now. being told it wasnt important to get an education in "this world" as it would be gone soon.
now im not blaming then for all the failings of my life, but what could i have acomplished with encouragement ? what could we all have done ? i missed 87 days in my last year at school, WHY ? to go out on service more !!!!!! after all i was gonna be a pioneer and pursue "spirtual goals!"
i remember being told at an assembly, maybe 6 years ago. "if your studying to be a doctor, your wasting your time, as you wont be needed soon". THIS WAS THE PUBLIC TALK!!! Imagine the legacy of harm that has been done to peoples lives without thought.
i took career advice from window cleaners, and salesmen. im now a window cleaner ! im happy, but i could be more. and i know men and women so smart that have wasted their lives propping up a publishing company.
it amazes me how gullible i was, but im glad im out now. in future nobody take advantage of me like that again
josephus
i was my nephews birthday party tonight.
my sister (who i didnt speak to for 15 years because she was dffd was the hostess).. all was well, and we got to talking about growing up as a kid in the truth.
my mum was there and i admoitted to thinking from as early as i could remember till i was about 20 the "the end" was coming any minute.
ahhhh if one thing will bring down gods wrath on mankind, it would be a return to pencil thin leather ties ! i remember as i got older i was refused the privilege of doing the mics, because i wore cord trousers !! apparently god doesnt like cord.
josephus
i was my nephews birthday party tonight.
my sister (who i didnt speak to for 15 years because she was dffd was the hostess).. all was well, and we got to talking about growing up as a kid in the truth.
my mum was there and i admoitted to thinking from as early as i could remember till i was about 20 the "the end" was coming any minute.
Hi all
i was my nephews birthday party tonight. my sister (who i didnt speak to for 15 years because she was dffd was the hostess).
all was well, and we got to talking about growing up as a kid in the truth. my mum was there and i admoitted to thinking from as early as i could remember till i was about 20 the "the end" was coming any minute.
i wrote lists of things i would need in the event of an emergency, how we would fing eachother if we were seperated when it happened, and kept maps so we could escape persecution. i even tried to dig a big pit to store stuff in so wed be prepared.
now i realize this is stupid, but i was between 8, and 13 when i did this. my parents (both good jws) didnt know as i never told them, and they would never have wanted me to think like that.
so i told my mum and sister, and it turns out she did the same thing !!!!!!!! i have to wonder were we especially odd ? or is this crazy survivalist mentality bred into all jw kids ?
now my brother never did these things, but he never took it as seriously as we did, so i wonder if only devout kids are affected.
any thoughts
josephus
i havent said too much here recently, mainly due to a severe lack of anything to say !, however, tonight my old hall has had a special meeting with a talk by the head of the ireland branch.
he is visiting for a week and afterwords all present will be having snacks and drinks, in the hall.. please tell me what is happening with the world when special saterday night meetings are held with refreshments.
i think its because about 10 people have left recently and made no secret of their reasons, but still, its unheard of for this to happen.. any thoughts.
hi everybody.
i havent said too much here recently, mainly due to a severe lack of anything to say !, however, tonight my old hall has had a special meeting with a talk by the head of the ireland branch. he is visiting for a week and afterwords all present will be having snacks and drinks, IN THE HALL.
please tell me what is happening with the world when special saterday night meetings are held with refreshments. i think its because about 10 people have left recently and made no secret of their reasons, but still, its unheard of for this to happen.
Any thoughts
josephus
nice thread.. "when the world turned blue" by joe samples & lala hathaway.
it just had a big impact on me when i was leaving the watchtower, i still play it now.. "soul 2 soul" keep on moving.
i was playing that a lot at the time so it had an impact on memories.. "havent you heard" patrice rushen.
great thread
mine was IN THE END by Linkon park.
LINE.
THINGS, ARENT THE WAY THEY WERE BEFORE. YOU WOULDNT EVEN RECOGNISE ME ANYMORE. NOT THAT YOU KNEW ME BACK THEN, BUT IT ALL COMES BACK TO ME IN THE END.
AND EVEN THOUGH I TRIED IT ALL FELL APART, WHAT IS MEANT TO BE WILL EVENTUALLY BE A MEMORY OF A TIME I TRIED, AND GOT TOO FAR, BUT IN THE END IT DIDNT REALLY MATTER, I TRIED TO HARD TO LOSE IT ALL, BUT IN THE END IT DIDNT REALLY MATTER.
AHH
im mistin up.
cheers
josephus
i was 13 at the time.
i wanted to get baptised before the end came in 1975. .
back then, 13 was borderline young for baptism, but from what i've been reading, some are now getting baptised as young as 9 or 10. .
i was the mature age of 12 .
josephus
it would have been 11 but they messed up my questions so i had to wait.
i bet the people in the twin towers never thought they would be the victims of a terrorist attack.
sometimes the stuff that happens overseas seem so far away.
i look around my community and find it hard to believe that anything is going to happen here.. i live in southern califonia, near san diego, and who knows?
i live in northern ireland
ive had my house blown up once.
ive been attacked by angry mobs twice.
ive seen several bombs go off nearby, killing 6 people.
ive know many hurt by it too.
and allthough i hope not, im pretty certain ill see it again.
one little point though. America is not the only place to suffer terror attacks. All mine were paid for by loyal irish Americans.
of corse lots of others, from Chili to Afganistan can thank the good old U S government for supporting terror in their countries.
maybe a good place to start ending terrorism is in American wallets.
josephus
i bet the people in the twin towers never thought they would be the victims of a terrorist attack.
sometimes the stuff that happens overseas seem so far away.
i look around my community and find it hard to believe that anything is going to happen here.. i live in southern califonia, near san diego, and who knows?
i live in northern ireland
ive had my house blown up
not necessarily in order of importance:.
number one: your theocratic ministry school had a "a", "b", and "c" school.
other clues: many of the elder's wives aren't even in it.
A very well written peice.
i can only add one thing. They stop harassing ones who leave.
i left 2 years ago. my freinds and family all know my feelings about the "truth" and ive helped about 8 others leave in my hall.
the result ?
no visits. no interest. only an announcement recently stating that "all the ones wjhove recently left are to be considered bad accosiates.
very weird indeed.
josephus
