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  Possibly heard a Conscious Class public talk.

  by lostinnj83 in

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  i can't be certain but i found yesterdays public talk to be interesting.

  it was on salvation.

  the speaker read many scriptures from the bible and didn't mention anything about the organization being necessary for salvation, just jehovah and jesus.. i actually walked out feeling like i had learned something.. perhaps, he wasn't of the conscious class but in the very least he gave a nice non brainwashed message.. does anyone else think they have heard a conscious class talk given from the platform?.

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  For anyone unsure as to whether JW's are a cult..please read...

  by lostinnj83 in

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  if the informaiton i am posting is redundant or has been posted, please forgive me.. i know we are all at different stages of this journey.

  for me i am still "in" but working towards being out and leaving.

  any one in this position or who has been here knows how diffucult of a time this can be.

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  For anyone still unsure as to whether the JW

  by lostinnj83 in

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  Double Standard re: Baptism

  by lostinnj83 in

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  i was speaking to my mother earlier this week, and she was mentioning about someone in her hall that was in the hospital.

  this person was never mentally "present" even prior to getting baptized.

  my mom said out of the blue "why would they allow someone who is mentally incoherent to make such a serious commitment as baptism?".

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  Where is this LOVE that is being "preached about"??

  by lostinnj83 in

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  the only display of love that i have experienced is from non-jw's!!!!!

  the people we have been warned so much to stay away from them are the only ones that have been supportive and loving towards me in my darkest moments.. .

  what really gets me is how they can bring themselves to show "love" to someone who has committed heinous crimes like molesting children but will be downright hateful to people who have become better and happier people since they have left the organization!!!.

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  Lost best friend...

  by lostinnj83 in

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  so i am not even out yet and i feel as though i have already lost my best friend.. i asked her if i could use her as a reference on an apartment rental if i decide to go the route of separation from my husband.

  she knows all of what i went through in my marriage and how much pain and suffering that i have endured.. at first she said yes, no problem, then she asked if i would be speaking to the elders about it, and i said no, she asked why not, i said that is my choice to do or not do.. her response was that i pray and speak to the elders and that she thinks it best that i don't use her as a reference because she would feel that she was supporting my decision to separate.

  i said fine but i also said that her response seems to be more of a concern about me speaking to the elders rather than being concerned for my well being.

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  Anyone still "in" that is feeling physically sick??

  by lostinnj83 in

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  i really think that staying "in" just for family and friends is doing a number on my health.

  i am currently in therapy for the mental part of all of this but i am phsyically sick every time i have to get ready to go to the meeting or service.

  i get heart palpitations as well.

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  Logical Illustration (for those who will listen!)

  by lostinnj83 in

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  in my quest to try to reason with a few people close to me i thought of the perfect illustration as to why we should examine our beliefs against whats printed in the wt or on the jw website.. granted, because of the blinders they were on able to accept any part of what i was saying but to any "non-believer" that i have used this with has understood perfectly.

  so it may be worth a shot to try it out.. .

  if a person were looking to take a trip lets say to a specific resort.

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  Newbie Again (Kinda Sorta)

  by lostinnj83 in

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  i made my first post (which i have attached) more than 2.5 years ago.. sad to say i am still in the same situation.

  still "physically in" but have mentally been gone for years.

  i am still in my marriage and unfortunatly things have not gotten any better as far as me being able to help him see the light as far as the organization.. i am at a serious crossroad though because i am almost 30 years old, with no children.

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  Not Sure What To Do....HELP!!!!!

  by lostinnj83 in

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  hello..i have been lurking for quite some time and am finally ready to make my first post!.

  i was raised a witness and am still "active" in the congregation and am married to husband who is also and have been having some doubts for some time and voiced some of them to my husband a few months back and he immediatly called the elders who provided a sheparding call.

  doubts were mainly on the harshness of the disfellowshipping and the blood issue.

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