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  Need Help - Parent in ICU

  by AudeSapere in

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  df parent is in hospital icu and surgeon wants to give blood.

  parent is df for almost 20 and firmly refused blood for personal reasons (spiritual).. .

  my concern is that parent is taking strong stand based on outdated jw gb hlc guidelines.

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  Mary

  Hi AudeSpaere: I did a project a few years ago about all their BS doctrines and one of the subjects I did was on blood. Randy Watters has it on his Freeminds page and you can download it. It's in pdf. Go to pages 22 - 25 I believe and feel free to print it off and show it to your father.

  When my brother in law was dying, I convinced him and my sister that the Organization's ban on blood tranfusions was absurd and completely without scriptural support. While they did end up taking blood, it was too little, too late for him. Out of frustration and rage at watching him slowly deteriorate, I phoned Bethel and spoke to some idiot in the Writing Dept. about the blood issue. I was prepared for every argument he had. Of course, he was more concerned about who I was and what congregation I went to than in dealing with the issue at hand. Finally at the end of the conversation when he had nothing to back his drivel up, he told me that "if any changes needed to happen, Jehovah would direct it through the "Slave". End of conversation. I really wish I had taped it.

  There was someone else on here a couple of years ago who had a family member in the hospital and who was refusing blood. She emailed me about my project and I sent it to her. She printed it off and gave it to their daughter (the person in question) and apparently she read it, thought about it and decided to take the blood.

  Here is the link: http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=758:marys-project-an-analysis-of-jehovahs-witness-doctrine&catid=11:bible&Itemid=698

  Feel free to PM me as well.

  Thanks to Scully for alerting me to this thread.
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  What if the male became pregnant and not the woman.

  by jam in

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  how would our world today be different if the males.

  became pregnant.

  let's suppose the creator (who ever.

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  Mary

  What if the male became pregnant and not the woman.

  Birth control would have been invented 25,000 years ago after the first time the guy told the girl "I missed my period".
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  Who has experienced a REAL demonic incident?

  by Monsieur in

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  has anybody here experienced a bonafide, real, true incident in whicy 'demons' actually interacted with you or did something 'supernatural' that left you convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that satan and his demons exist??.

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  MadSweeney said: Nope. Nobody ever has. Demons aren't real.

  I beg to disagree. Ever have your ass hauled before a Judicial Committee?
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  Challenge to you prophets - can you meet it?

  by punkofnice in

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  i challenge anyone that can accurately predict events by reading the bible or your prophetic book of choice, to give me a specific date when something will happen so i can watch for it!.

  give us the date here (not a pm) and tell us what will happen.. let there be no excuses!

  no get out clauses of ''it doesn't work that way'' or similar.

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  OK, here's one: I predict that on the morning of July 16, 2013, that thousands of Witlesses will all be gathered together under one roof where they will sing, clap their hands off throughout the day, slap their kids, eat and sleep in their seats. At exactly 5:00pm, they will all disperse only to repeat the same routine the next morning.

  Okay, where's my million dollars?
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  Watchotwer video: How to stop a bully without using your fist...lol.

  by Joliette in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2gemsmw2y.

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  pot calling the kettle black?.

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  When I defended myself once, the bullies stopped but I got a severe beating for disobedience to the bible.

  Good lord. Sounds like your parents were 10x worse than the bullies.
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  What was today's video about?

  by jgnat in

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  today was a north american address to all congregations, 2 1/2 hours, with a video from the governing body.

  was anything earth-shattering shared?.

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  Mary

  My sister told me on Saturday that there was going to be a 'special meeting' that was taped and it was going to be 2 1/2 freaking hours. I asked her what the topic was and she said she didn't know. I said "gee, maybe Armageddon is right around the corner again".

  So ya, I'd be curious to know what it consisted of.
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  Gumby?

  by talesin in

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  miss you, bro.

  just in case you still lurk, i wanted to let you know.

  i'm doing much better now, and no longer have the 'brother' issues.

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  Actually I was talking to OldFlame not too long ago as he and Gumby have been close friends for years and they live in the same city. Gumby has more or less done The Fade and rarely ever goes to a meeting anymore. So that's good news. I was very surprised though when OldFlame told me that Gumby's wife hadn't gone to the meetings for a couple of months either. I'm not sure if it's because she was sick or just didn't want to go, but I can't imagine that goes over very well with their smug, self righteous son-in-law.

  While I never agreed with him going back to that shithole just to please his family, it was his decision, not mine and he simply couldn't handle not being allowed to see his grandkids or the rest of his family to the point where he was getting suicidal. And as bad as it was, I would rather see him as a live Witness than a dead ex-Witness.
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  So...Did Judas Leave Before the Lord's Evening Meal?

  by undercover in

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  yes, it's that time of year, once again, when the society starts reliving jesus' last few days on earth as a human.... in addition to all the propaganda about the 144,000 and only they being "allowed" to partake of jesus' blood and body at the annual jw deny christ ritual...another jw teaching, though not as dissected, is the teaching that judas iscariot left the room before the bread and wine were shared with the apostles.. it's important to jw doctrine that this be the case.

  because only those who make up the true christian congregation, the annointed, the first of these the faithful apostles, are to partake of these emblems.

  if jesus was already aware of judas' plan to betray him and yet judas was present for this new, important ritual, it would be rendered useless by his partaking.

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  I'm still tryin' ta think of a way to get out of going this year.........
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  Anyone have a record of lies told by the WT.

  by jam in

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  example, in print (may 22, 1969 wt, you will never die).. bold face lies, to show that this organization have been lying.

  out of their rear since day one.

  be denied.

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  Mary

  Watchtower Quotes is another good link: http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/
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  JW women in critical condition after being attacked by pit bull while out in service

  by JimmyPage in

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  http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20130319_11_0_twowom831238.

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  Mary

  OMG, that's awful!! I have a healthy fear of dogs and I remember when we would do country territory; if a dog came barking up to the car, I refused to get out.